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The official, WTF happened to TurtleGirl's engine...., ...on the way to Moab. |
Series9 |
Sep 26 2006, 03:43 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
As many of you are aware, I advised Liz to stop driving her car when I observed exhaust gas venting out of the oil tank on Saturday morning in Moab.
We flat-bedded her home just to be safe. Looks like it was a good call. Compression check (cold) reveals: 1. 105 2. 100 3. 105 4. 90 5. -0- 6. 105 The engine has not eaten itself, so we're going in. #4 will receive a check as well. Attached image(s) |
Series9 |
Sep 26 2006, 03:44 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
#5:
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Dr. Roger |
Sep 26 2006, 03:55 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
ouch.
zero compression is never a good thing. at least rings would show some compression usually. do the 6 engines lose seats too? i can build you a SBC engine pretty quick if you like. =-) |
Series9 |
Sep 26 2006, 03:57 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
ouch. zero compression is never a good thing. at least rings would show some compression usually. do the 6 engines lose seats too? i can build you a SBC engine pretty quick if you like. =-) Since exhaust was coming out of the oil tank, I'm pretty sure the valves are fine. And, bite your tongue about the SBC. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) |
Series9 |
Sep 26 2006, 04:13 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
I think Liz has the 'hard luck' trophy for next year behind door #5. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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Ferg |
Sep 26 2006, 04:18 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Uhg, i'll happily pass the "award" along to her after seeing those compression results. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Here's hoping for the best! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hands.gif) Ferg |
Aaron Cox |
Sep 26 2006, 04:21 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
looks super rich in there..... wierd... ZERO not even like 20 or 30?
interesting..... what are you thinking about it? since its zero.. i doubt its my idea of "oil washed away by excess fuel".. and i bet you are right on a holed/busted piston |
Brian Mifsud |
Sep 26 2006, 04:22 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
Since exhaust was coming out of the oil tank, I'm pretty sure the valves are fine. And, bite your tongue about the SBC. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) My rule of thumb with my Beetle engines was that when more exhaust gas came out of the crankcase ventilator than the exhaust pipe, it was time to rebuild. After rebuilding, I'd back off the ignition timing and/or enrichen the mixture as this was usually caused the big holes in the pistons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) $500 complete performance rebuild and back on the road again.... I'm sure it's just as easy and cheap with a 911 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) |
Series9 |
Sep 26 2006, 04:33 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
looks super rich in there..... wierd... ZERO not even like 20 or 30? interesting..... what are you thinking about it? since its zero.. i doubt its my idea of "oil washed away by excess fuel".. and i bet you are right on a holed/busted piston I'm pretty sure exhaust was coming out of the oil tank due to a big hole in the piston. I'm pretty sure it looks 'rich' because there's a big hole in the piston. I'm pretty sure the compression is zero because there's a BIG HOLE in the piston. This is all starting to add up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
Aaron Cox |
Sep 26 2006, 04:35 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i think you are right....
so what caused it? lean or advance? |
SirAndy |
Sep 26 2006, 05:08 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
iso what caused it? PING PING PING seen it *many* times during my dirt-bike racing days ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) Andy |
JPB |
Sep 26 2006, 05:15 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
Suckorama bro! How do they say, unlucky in cars lucky in love?
This is a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) situation for shure. |
Matt Romanowski |
Sep 26 2006, 05:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 878 Joined: 4-January 04 From: Manchester, NH Member No.: 1,507 |
Don't know the motor, but a bunch of things could do it. Too deep of valve reflief pockets. Too lean. Ping (as Andy said) and/or detonation. Timing issue. Weak Piston. On and on....
Sorry to see it. No real telling until you get the piston out. Make sure to pull a couple of other cyclinders off and check the pistons. If it was a lean / timing issue, there could be others ready to go. You can get Zyglo (or equivalent) at the local Airgas to crack check. Matt |
Bleyseng |
Sep 26 2006, 06:06 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I think Liz has the 'hard luck' trophy for next year behind door #5. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) 'bout time someone else got it as Brad has won it 5 years in a row. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alfred.gif) |
jd66921 |
Sep 26 2006, 06:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 9-January 06 From: Texas Member No.: 5,394 |
Jeez Liz, I thought you only lost a clutch cable.... |
McMark |
Sep 26 2006, 06:19 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Sounds like you've got something nice for the trophy wall. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Bummer Liz. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Time to bump the bore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
Series9 |
Sep 26 2006, 06:19 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
It's not lean, but I was running it a little advanced.
I'm going with that or straight bad luck. |
MoveQik |
Sep 26 2006, 06:25 PM
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What size wheels can I fit? Group: Members Posts: 4,654 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 3,881 Region Association: Southwest Region |
This should go in the official quotes thread but it is appropriate here as well:
Liz - "I hope the engine isn't shot. I can't afford to put in a 3.2 right now" As if that was the only option! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
ThinAir |
Sep 26 2006, 11:01 PM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,553 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm pretty sure exhaust was coming out of the oil tank due to a big hole in the piston. I'm pretty sure it looks 'rich' because there's a big hole in the piston. I'm pretty sure the compression is zero because there's a BIG HOLE in the piston. This is all starting to add up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I dunno Joe... I think it's a hole in the piston. Probably a big one! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
effutuo101 |
Sep 26 2006, 11:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
How much is one of those nifty fiber optic camers so we can look inside the engines with out taking them apart? Somebody could probalby make a mint with if they made one with a light so we could poke around our motors with out taking them out.
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