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A/X today, BMW vs P-cars |
URY914 |
Nov 26 2006, 08:19 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
And the BMW guys won......again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
We took the best times of six runs and averaged them. BWM's were just over 39 seconds and we were just over 40. My best was a 34.539. I was third overall behind Danny's Boxter at 34.292 and a Lotus 7 copy with a 3.4 liter V6 Chevy with a 34.436. The weather was PERFECT! Here I am in action. This pic has been reduced, the original one is 1288 KB!!! Talk about wallpaper. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 26 2006, 08:43 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
nessie laid down some smack!
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URY914 |
Nov 26 2006, 08:46 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
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Mike T |
Nov 27 2006, 11:00 AM
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can't 'member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Brackney, PA Member No.: 161 |
Looks like you closed the gap on the Stalker from the State Championships. Was it the same car?
Did you make any changes to your car? Mike T |
Joe Ricard |
Nov 27 2006, 11:34 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
I agree with the wing thing. XP allows a 5 foot wide 3 foot long wing.
If'n I had your Horse power I definately would go that route. With a splitter that makes Trekkor's look like a scooter toy. |
URY914 |
Nov 27 2006, 12:38 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Looks like you closed the gap on the Stalker from the State Championships. Was it the same car? Did you make any changes to your car? Mike T It was the same car/driver. Yesterday's course was 1/3 the length of what the Championship course was. I was a little surprised I could get that close to his time and I didn't change a thing to the car. |
URY914 |
Nov 27 2006, 12:41 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I agree with the wing thing. XP allows a 5 foot wide 3 foot long wing. If'n I had your Horse power I definately would go that route. With a splitter that makes Trekkor's look like a scooter toy. I think I'm going to make a wing. 60" x 12" with end plates. It'll be my winter project. |
Rough_Rider |
Nov 27 2006, 02:13 PM
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Smurf Zone Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547 |
A little inspiration perhaps.
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Joe Ricard |
Nov 27 2006, 02:36 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
XP rules currently say I can have up to 15 sq ft of rear wing. However I am going to need more HP to overcome the drag.
Wonder is Jake will rent me an engine for Nationals. |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 27 2006, 02:36 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
pikes peak... scary....
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Rough_Rider |
Nov 27 2006, 03:02 PM
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Smurf Zone Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547 |
QUOTE However I am going to need more HP to overcome the drag. I hear this a lot so have been researching car aerodynamics, the short answer is in most low drag road car body profiles positive lift is generated. The analogy is look at a car in profile & superimpose an aircraft wing profile. Easy to see in the case of a 911. Using spoilers & wings aids in generating negative lift, which allows us to go faster through turns then consequently go faster down straights etc. Its a compound equation from then on. Thus creating drag is not always a bad thing. An F1 car creates so much drag that before the brakes are put on the car decelerates at >1g. BTW i know they've 900hp, unlimited budgets & 200mph on their side. But I'm working the math on 14's based on more modest 20-50mph road speeds. Stay tuned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
Joe Ricard |
Nov 27 2006, 04:04 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Anyone notice the abundance of wings at Nationals this year? Heck even the class winning STS car had a freaking wing.
Yet the XP winner was a 70 911 with duck tail. Que in the "I'm still kicking myself for not going this year". |
914forme |
Nov 27 2006, 05:08 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Yes it was the year of the wing!
Home Depot here I come. If I run a big enough wing I might be able to keep my rear from lifiting in turn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) That has been fixed btw, with various methods, 2 prevent it, one says bring it I am now prepared. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) BTW, Good Job Paul did the Stalker have to run X class or did the BMW guys take him cause he used a BMW shift knob. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Or did he just wear the tee shirt and matching thong underwear (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) |
URY914 |
Nov 27 2006, 05:25 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
If you do a Google search for wings you get a million ricer bolt-on suppliers. I found these on line from a company named Pennon. There website even has cross section drawings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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Mike T |
Nov 27 2006, 05:37 PM
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can't 'member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Brackney, PA Member No.: 161 |
I think I'm going to make a wing. 60" x 12" with end plates. It'll be my winter project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) E-Mod = no wings... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Mike T |
URY914 |
Nov 27 2006, 05:56 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
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URY914 |
Nov 27 2006, 05:57 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
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Joe Ricard |
Nov 27 2006, 06:24 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
A-mod..... Oh yea baby!
Paul those wings for ricers are WAY not big enough to have any effect at Autocross cornering speeds. |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 27 2006, 07:15 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
look at sheridans wing at ultimate914.com
dont you need something over the roofline? (not applicable to paul's car LOL) |
URY914 |
Nov 27 2006, 07:52 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
A-mod..... Oh yea baby! Paul those wings for ricers are WAY not big enough to have any effect at Autocross cornering speeds. I agree, the ricer wings are too small. I'm thinking some thing like this but maybe with a bi-wing. Attached image(s) |
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