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Group C racing, Anybody remember? |
Curvie Roadlover |
Mar 7 2004, 07:53 PM
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Two trunks are better than one! Group: Members Posts: 2,025 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 42 |
Anybody remember Group C racing in the 80's? Those cars were, in my opinion, the best race cars EVER! For those that don't remember, they were prototype cars with pretty much unlimited technology. Kinda like full body'd F1 cars. When they used to race at LeMans, before the chicanes were added to the Mulsanne straight, Group C cars would hit 300+ mph yes 300 mph. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) They were the fastest race cars in existence at the time. I'm not sure, but I think they were doing 300 mph before top fuel drag racers were, and that was on ROAD COURSES!! If there's anybody out there that knows a source to get vintage video of those races please speak up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif)
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URY914 |
Mar 7 2004, 08:06 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Wait a minute. Group C NEVER when 300 mph. Maybe 250 tops. This car was about the fastest
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TheCabinetmaker |
Mar 7 2004, 08:10 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,309 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
UUUUUUHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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URY914 |
Mar 7 2004, 08:12 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I stand corrected here is the fastest LeMans trap speeds
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/maxspeed.htm 248 mph in the race and 251 mph in pratice. |
URY914 |
Mar 7 2004, 08:23 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
1988 fastest
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URY914 |
Mar 7 2004, 08:23 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
1989 fastest
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TimT |
Mar 7 2004, 08:34 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Those cars never hit 300mph they were friggin fast though 248mph is just unfathomable..
I saw a race at Lime Rock Al Holbert in a 956, or 962 had pole... and when the flag dropped he had half the straight on the rest of the field... and Lime Rock isnt a big track...it was amazing seeing him pilot that car.... lapping.. passing at will.. this was when Group 44 Jags were in the frey too.. Aston Martin Nimrods... Group C Simply amazing |
URY914 |
Mar 7 2004, 08:37 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I got a bunch of sites and pictures of the GTP/Group C era.
The best sports car racing ever. |
TimT |
Mar 7 2004, 08:37 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Paul that Mulsannes corner sight is cool.... found it a few yrs ago...love the pics
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URY914 |
Mar 7 2004, 08:44 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Here is another great one. The wants to have pics from every sports car race there ever was.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/ You can submit your own pictures Paul (Tim, worked on the door today) |
sixerdon |
Mar 7 2004, 09:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
Go read your Porsche history books. There was nothing more potent than the 917-30 in the Can-Am series of '73. With almost 1200 Turbo HP on 12 cylinders....... nothing then or since has come close to these machines. Mark Donahue was the man!
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URY914 |
Mar 7 2004, 09:18 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,027 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
True the 917-30 was the top of the sport but it was not built to run at top speed for miles at a time.
It was acceleration out of the corners that it was designed for. |
J P Stein |
Mar 7 2004, 09:54 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I dunno how fast Donohue got that sucker going, but he lapped Talladega at 221 mph.....the motor bout melted, tho. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I went & saw some USAC roadracing ... pre Can Am stuff....pretty damn impressive. The Can AM didn't come up this way....or I was off doing Uncle Sugar's work when they were. I would think that 30-40 8 liter Chebbies heading for the first turn would make ones bowels loose. |
Dave_Darling |
Mar 7 2004, 10:50 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,048 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I think that they managed to get a 917 of some configuration up to almost 240 MPH on the Mulsanne straight. But I also think that was one of the longtail versions that was ... ummm... challenging to control.
When they cut off the tail of the car, it got a whole lot more controllable. --DD |
campbellcj |
Mar 7 2004, 11:08 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,574 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
The 917LH (longtail i.e. langheck or something like that) apparently did 390kph or 242kph on the Mulsanne Straight. I think the general consensus is that the various 917 flavors were pushing 250mph if not a tad more. I have personally never heard of any car before or since significantly beating that mark in similar conditions.
I don't recall ever travelling more than 140mph myself, and that's plenty scary! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) |
Curvie Roadlover |
Mar 8 2004, 05:22 AM
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Two trunks are better than one! Group: Members Posts: 2,025 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 42 |
Sorry, I thought I remembered hearing 300+ mph at LeMans many years ago. Still, they were the coolest race cars IMHO. I would love to have been to a race. I was making plans to attend the race in Montreal when the series stopped running (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Curvie Roadlover |
Mar 8 2004, 05:23 AM
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Two trunks are better than one! Group: Members Posts: 2,025 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 42 |
Thanks for the pics, Paul (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
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