Engine Support Bar as Jacking Point?, Is it safe to jack the car using the engine support bar |
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Engine Support Bar as Jacking Point?, Is it safe to jack the car using the engine support bar |
toadman |
Mar 3 2012, 08:07 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 26-December 05 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 5,316 |
I would like to find a fairly quick way to jack up the back of my 1976 914 higher than most common floor jacks allow. I am considering using a long frame, high lift jack to lift on the center of the engine support bar.
First I would back on to a pair of car ramps. I think this would get me the clearance I need to put the jack under the support bar (from the rear of the car) and to get a little room to pump the handle. I'd jack the back of the car up and properly support it. Has anyone tried this or have an educated guess whether or not the engine support bar can handle the load? Any other opinion on this idea? |
mikea100 |
Mar 3 2012, 08:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 28-December 09 From: Edison, NJ Member No.: 11,182 Region Association: North East States |
Check out this thread
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rgalla9146 |
Mar 4 2012, 08:47 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,624 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
I've used the cast iron side shift bar for 30 years with no problem. If the car has any real rust better check the sheet metal on the body side of the motor mounts for weakness and rust through. Lifting the car this way is also a good indicator of longs weakness. Before going too high check for change in rear door gaps. Opening up big time ?..... stop right there, consult wallet. Also don't go forward under the floor pan, The floor is not strong enough forward of the bulkhead. At the centerline of the jack points you are at the tipping point of the car. It turns into a see-saw. |
rwilner |
Mar 4 2012, 08:54 AM
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No Ghosts in the Machine Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 30-March 10 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 11,530 Region Association: North East States |
I have a 73 sideshift. I have a low profile floor jack from hf and use the engine mount bar to jack up my car...ever since I saw rory do it. I have done this 20 times at least since with no issues.
Go for it. |
toadman |
Mar 4 2012, 05:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 26-December 05 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 5,316 |
I have a 73 sideshift. I have a low profile floor jack from hf and use the engine mount bar to jack up my car...ever since I saw rory do it. I have done this 20 times at least since with no issues. Go for it. RWilner, rgalla9146 and others, thanks for your replies. I just want to make sure that everyone understands that I am talking about jacking up the entire back of the car all at once using the middle of the engine bar as the lifting point. I am not talking about going from side to side and using the engine bar to pick up the car. I have done that safely a number of times and I want to get away from that. I hope that one of our 914 engineer types, or someone that routinely jacks up the back of their car like this, will help me answer this question. Thanks, again, everyone! |
rwilner |
Mar 4 2012, 05:45 PM
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No Ghosts in the Machine Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 30-March 10 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 11,530 Region Association: North East States |
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rgalla9146 |
Mar 4 2012, 08:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,624 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
jacking up the entire back of the car all at once using the middle of the engine bar as the lifting point. Yep, this is exactly what I do. OK, maybe I wasn't clear . I've always jacked up side shift cars on the center of the forged steel engine support. I've never had a problem. Then put jack stands at the ends of the bar if you aren't removing the engine. The one thing that you must watch for is that as the car goes up that the forward part of the jack cup does not lift the fan housing. Bad for motor mounts. Also, do this to get the jack under the car. Back the car up (or forward) onto a 1'- 2"x6" and then onto a pair (on top of each other) of 1'- 2"x 6"s This will give you 4" of clearance so you can push the jack in from the center rear. And yes, I have a Hoffman 4 arm lift in my garage. It's always good to know ol' school. |
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