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> Carb question, need to dump little gas in carb just to get car started
angerosa
post Apr 28 2013, 08:45 AM
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Seems that this year I need to put a little gas into the carb to get the car started initially. I have single Solex carb that no one seems to be able to identify. I'm sure some PO just pulled it off something that was sitting in a junkyard. Once I get car started and it warms up it idles OK but runs rough when you try to drive it. Timing is spot on. Recent (not too many miles ago) tune up with the help of some very knowledgeable 914world brethren. Let’s say it’s a given that there is nothing wrong with the engine. I have an idea of where to go next. I’ve had car for about 7 years. With only what I’ve told you here what’s your opinion?

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Mike Bellis
post Apr 29 2013, 10:18 PM
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That's a big gap between the cam and pump arm. It almost looks like something is missing. A link maybe? Can you post some more pics of the cam and pump from different angles?

The cam should push the pump as soon as it moves from the idle position.
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post Apr 29 2013, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Apr 30 2013, 12:18 AM) *

That's a big gap between the cam and pump arm. It almost looks like something is missing. A link maybe? Can you post some more pics of the cam and pump from different angles?

The cam should push the pump as soon as it moves from the idle position.


I see what Mike is saying. I still can't quite figure out how it actuates from the picture, but if that bottom cam is the throttle cam, the two should be tied together somehow.

The accelerator pump actuation is adjustable though. I see the little screw on the end of the arm where it pushes down on the diaphragm itself. Don't mess with that though - follow Mike's thinking - how does the throttle lever push the arm down.

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http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.ph...64&t=139538

I can see it in the diagram down toward the middle of the thread (part #29), but it's hard to tell in the picture if the pump actuating cam is situated with the throttle full open. It should close at some point when the throttle is completely off idle and into the main.

Jason, while you have it out, you might also replace those black vacuum plugs at bottom front side of the carb. If those are cracked or leaking it can wreak havoc with drivability.
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post Apr 30 2013, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Apr 30 2013, 12:22 AM) *

QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Apr 30 2013, 12:18 AM) *

That's a big gap between the cam and pump arm. It almost looks like something is missing. A link maybe? Can you post some more pics of the cam and pump from different angles?

The cam should push the pump as soon as it moves from the idle position.


I see what Mike is saying. I still can't quite figure out how it actuates from the picture, but if that bottom cam is the throttle cam, the two should be tied together somehow.

The accelerator pump actuation is adjustable though. I see the little screw on the end of the arm where it pushes down on the diaphragm itself. Don't mess with that though - follow Mike's thinking - how does the throttle lever push the arm down.

Edit:
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.ph...64&t=139538

I can see it in the diagram down toward the middle of the thread (part #29), but it's hard to tell in the picture if the pump actuating cam is situated with the throttle full open. It should close at some point when the throttle is completely off idle and into the main.

Jason, while you have it out, you might also replace those black vacuum plugs at bottom front side of the carb. If those are cracked or leaking it can wreak havoc with drivability.


I might but remember my week this week and I'm trying to make the show on Sunday. I'll give them a close examination. I could do that with the carb on the engine.
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angerosa   Carb question   Apr 28 2013, 08:45 AM
kg6dxn   If you have to dump gas in it, the throttle pump i...   Apr 28 2013, 09:01 AM
ThePaintedMan   Agree with Mike. If the carb has never been rebuil...   Apr 28 2013, 09:17 AM
angerosa   Yes - I agree. Time for a rebuild. I've had it...   Apr 28 2013, 10:52 AM
rhodyguy   is the one butterfly activated by the what looks l...   Apr 28 2013, 12:00 PM
kg6dxn   is the one butterfly activated by the what looks ...   Apr 28 2013, 03:24 PM
angerosa   is the one butterfly activated by the what looks...   Apr 28 2013, 03:55 PM
angerosa   My topic from two years ago looking for carb rebui...   Apr 28 2013, 04:10 PM
warpig   I've got a set of dual weber 44's with man...   Apr 28 2013, 04:33 PM
angerosa   I've got a set of dual weber 44's with ma...   Apr 28 2013, 08:20 PM
DBCooper   I agree, if you can't pump some gas into the c...   Apr 28 2013, 06:39 PM
angerosa   I agree, if you can't pump some gas into the ...   Apr 28 2013, 08:37 PM
ThePaintedMan   Hmmm.. a search for Solex 32/34 or Solex progressi...   Apr 28 2013, 07:36 PM
angerosa   Hmmm.. a search for Solex 32/34 or Solex progress...   Apr 28 2013, 08:47 PM
ThePaintedMan   http://www.carbkits.com/catalog/pr/c5/3/solex%20ca...   Apr 28 2013, 07:38 PM
rhodyguy   maybe a ll he needs to do is replace the choke spr...   Apr 28 2013, 07:50 PM
kg6dxn   You could go to your local auto parts store and ge...   Apr 28 2013, 08:28 PM
angerosa   You could go to your local auto parts store and g...   Apr 28 2013, 08:42 PM
angerosa   And ThePaintedMan wins it! Thanks George...   Apr 29 2013, 06:48 PM
ThePaintedMan   Glad I could help and I got something right for on...   Apr 29 2013, 08:49 PM
angerosa   At what point should this cam bracket actuate the ...   Apr 29 2013, 09:01 PM
ThePaintedMan   Assuming it works like every other carb (and physi...   Apr 29 2013, 09:19 PM
angerosa   Assuming it works like every other carb (and phys...   Apr 30 2013, 10:45 AM
ThePaintedMan   So just to confirm... The "at rest" pos...   Apr 30 2013, 10:55 AM
angerosa   So just to confirm... The "at rest" po...   Apr 30 2013, 11:06 AM
kg6dxn   That's a big gap between the cam and pump arm....   Apr 29 2013, 10:18 PM
ThePaintedMan   That's a big gap between the cam and pump arm...   Apr 29 2013, 10:22 PM
angerosa   That's a big gap between the cam and pump ar...   Apr 30 2013, 10:51 AM
angerosa   That's a big gap between the cam and pump arm...   Apr 30 2013, 10:49 AM
kg6dxn   Looks like the arm needs to come way down. Where i...   Apr 29 2013, 10:42 PM
ThePaintedMan   Looks like the arm needs to come way down. Where ...   Apr 29 2013, 10:46 PM
kg6dxn   Looks like the arm needs to come way down. Where...   Apr 29 2013, 11:08 PM
rhodyguy   as he stated, the choke looks to be wired in the p...   Apr 30 2013, 08:46 AM
angerosa   as he stated, the choke looks to be wired in the ...   Apr 30 2013, 10:59 AM
angerosa   Just got off the phone with the carb rebuild kit s...   Apr 30 2013, 03:34 PM
angerosa   So everyone is pointing out this distance that jus...   Apr 30 2013, 08:13 PM
DBCooper   Take off the screws holding in the accelerator pum...   Apr 30 2013, 10:12 PM
ThePaintedMan   Take off the screws holding in the accelerator pu...   May 1 2013, 09:23 AM
angerosa   I will get the accel pump out but can't do it ...   May 1 2013, 11:11 AM
angerosa   latest news. I got the carb kit and what I thought...   May 4 2013, 09:30 AM
angerosa   The story picks up here... So last you knew I was...   May 4 2013, 04:13 PM
kg6dxn   Now you're at the point where you find the ach...   May 4 2013, 04:49 PM
angerosa   Thanks Mike - makes a lot of sense. There is a str...   May 5 2013, 06:33 PM
ThePaintedMan   I agree with what Mike is saying. The longer intak...   May 6 2013, 08:24 AM


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