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> Carb question, need to dump little gas in carb just to get car started
angerosa
post Apr 28 2013, 08:45 AM
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Seems that this year I need to put a little gas into the carb to get the car started initially. I have single Solex carb that no one seems to be able to identify. I'm sure some PO just pulled it off something that was sitting in a junkyard. Once I get car started and it warms up it idles OK but runs rough when you try to drive it. Timing is spot on. Recent (not too many miles ago) tune up with the help of some very knowledgeable 914world brethren. Let’s say it’s a given that there is nothing wrong with the engine. I have an idea of where to go next. I’ve had car for about 7 years. With only what I’ve told you here what’s your opinion?

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post May 4 2013, 04:13 PM
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The story picks up here...

So last you knew I was using my phone at the inspection station to make the last post. Lets rewind to Tuesday... I got a call from the carb rebuild kit vendor telling me that there were two different accelerator pumps for my carb and asking which one I had so he'd know which to include in my kit. He said one was much longer than the other. I thought to myself this must be my problem all along... I have the wrong one in my carb. I paid the extra $10 to have him include both pumps and a few more dollars for priority mail. Remember I'm trying to make it to a show on Sunday.

In retrospect it didn't make much sense that I had the wrong pump all this time. My car didn't run bad the first several years I had it.

After a really hectic week I was excited to receive the kit in mail on Friday. I ripped open the package only to discover that the longer accelerator pump was the same one I already had. I set it aside to enjoy a pre-arranged, Friday night dinner with the in-laws.

At about 8 this morning I went outside and started giving the carb a gasoline bath. I wanted to put the same accel pump back in because it looked to be in good condition. The spring also looked to be just fine.
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I wanted to just clean out the inside of the accelerator pump reservoir because it looked a little dirty. I was hoping I could find some other adjustment to get the cam closer to the accel pump actuating arm. When I got everything back together it lined up perfectly! It was just some gummed-up grime that was holding the button in and the gasoline bath had cleared it out. I mounted the carb back on the intake and made some small adjustments to the fine adjustment screw in the actuating arm so that the accelerator pump is actuated with the smallest push of the peddle. I also put the tension spring on a little tighter. I had an issue where my carpet was keeping the peddle from fully returning to the neutral position which made the car idle a bit higher when that happened. Now it doesn't do that. Here's what it looks like now.
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Much better right?

Runs much better. Here's my problem now...

My car runs 95% better but I still don't know how to tune this thing. When I got everything back on my car I still had an issue where it was dying out when I hit the throttle. I found that if I tuned the screw for Primary idle jet a tiny bit, it got rid of that. See earlier in my thread the diagram of my carb that kg6dxn posted...
Should I be turning that screw?
What knobs should I be tweaking to tune this carb?
What jets should I be adjusting if any?

The only symptom I have now that I would try to get rid of is that when I'm in the wrong gear, the car bucks and backfires a little bit. For example if I'm in 3rd going slowly up a hill and I nail the throttle, the car bucks instead of slowly accelerates to speed like I would expect a FI car to behave. This is not really a huge problem but I bet with the right adjustments I could get rid of it.

Oh and by the way...
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angerosa   Carb question   Apr 28 2013, 08:45 AM
kg6dxn   If you have to dump gas in it, the throttle pump i...   Apr 28 2013, 09:01 AM
ThePaintedMan   Agree with Mike. If the carb has never been rebuil...   Apr 28 2013, 09:17 AM
angerosa   Yes - I agree. Time for a rebuild. I've had it...   Apr 28 2013, 10:52 AM
rhodyguy   is the one butterfly activated by the what looks l...   Apr 28 2013, 12:00 PM
kg6dxn   is the one butterfly activated by the what looks ...   Apr 28 2013, 03:24 PM
angerosa   is the one butterfly activated by the what looks...   Apr 28 2013, 03:55 PM
angerosa   My topic from two years ago looking for carb rebui...   Apr 28 2013, 04:10 PM
warpig   I've got a set of dual weber 44's with man...   Apr 28 2013, 04:33 PM
angerosa   I've got a set of dual weber 44's with ma...   Apr 28 2013, 08:20 PM
DBCooper   I agree, if you can't pump some gas into the c...   Apr 28 2013, 06:39 PM
angerosa   I agree, if you can't pump some gas into the ...   Apr 28 2013, 08:37 PM
ThePaintedMan   Hmmm.. a search for Solex 32/34 or Solex progressi...   Apr 28 2013, 07:36 PM
angerosa   Hmmm.. a search for Solex 32/34 or Solex progress...   Apr 28 2013, 08:47 PM
ThePaintedMan   http://www.carbkits.com/catalog/pr/c5/3/solex%20ca...   Apr 28 2013, 07:38 PM
rhodyguy   maybe a ll he needs to do is replace the choke spr...   Apr 28 2013, 07:50 PM
kg6dxn   You could go to your local auto parts store and ge...   Apr 28 2013, 08:28 PM
angerosa   You could go to your local auto parts store and g...   Apr 28 2013, 08:42 PM
angerosa   And ThePaintedMan wins it! Thanks George...   Apr 29 2013, 06:48 PM
ThePaintedMan   Glad I could help and I got something right for on...   Apr 29 2013, 08:49 PM
angerosa   At what point should this cam bracket actuate the ...   Apr 29 2013, 09:01 PM
ThePaintedMan   Assuming it works like every other carb (and physi...   Apr 29 2013, 09:19 PM
angerosa   Assuming it works like every other carb (and phys...   Apr 30 2013, 10:45 AM
ThePaintedMan   So just to confirm... The "at rest" pos...   Apr 30 2013, 10:55 AM
angerosa   So just to confirm... The "at rest" po...   Apr 30 2013, 11:06 AM
kg6dxn   That's a big gap between the cam and pump arm....   Apr 29 2013, 10:18 PM
ThePaintedMan   That's a big gap between the cam and pump arm...   Apr 29 2013, 10:22 PM
angerosa   That's a big gap between the cam and pump ar...   Apr 30 2013, 10:51 AM
angerosa   That's a big gap between the cam and pump arm...   Apr 30 2013, 10:49 AM
kg6dxn   Looks like the arm needs to come way down. Where i...   Apr 29 2013, 10:42 PM
ThePaintedMan   Looks like the arm needs to come way down. Where ...   Apr 29 2013, 10:46 PM
kg6dxn   Looks like the arm needs to come way down. Where...   Apr 29 2013, 11:08 PM
rhodyguy   as he stated, the choke looks to be wired in the p...   Apr 30 2013, 08:46 AM
angerosa   as he stated, the choke looks to be wired in the ...   Apr 30 2013, 10:59 AM
angerosa   Just got off the phone with the carb rebuild kit s...   Apr 30 2013, 03:34 PM
angerosa   So everyone is pointing out this distance that jus...   Apr 30 2013, 08:13 PM
DBCooper   Take off the screws holding in the accelerator pum...   Apr 30 2013, 10:12 PM
ThePaintedMan   Take off the screws holding in the accelerator pu...   May 1 2013, 09:23 AM
angerosa   I will get the accel pump out but can't do it ...   May 1 2013, 11:11 AM
angerosa   latest news. I got the carb kit and what I thought...   May 4 2013, 09:30 AM
angerosa   The story picks up here... So last you knew I was...   May 4 2013, 04:13 PM
kg6dxn   Now you're at the point where you find the ach...   May 4 2013, 04:49 PM
angerosa   Thanks Mike - makes a lot of sense. There is a str...   May 5 2013, 06:33 PM
ThePaintedMan   I agree with what Mike is saying. The longer intak...   May 6 2013, 08:24 AM


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