1st auto-x next weekend, Next AX September 8th- only 7 points out of 3rd place with 3 events left! |
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1st auto-x next weekend, Next AX September 8th- only 7 points out of 3rd place with 3 events left! |
scott_in_nh |
Apr 13 2013, 05:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
74, stock 2.0, stock front swaybar - no rear bar, stock front inserts, may mount an older set of adjustable Koni's I already have on the back, either way 100 lb springs, 195/65 Eagle GT's.
Looking to have fun, not too worried about much else, but I have a few basic setup questions: I'm going to chalk the tires, but what pressure should I start at? Full tank, half tank or empty tank? Spare tire in or out? The konis need to be adjusted out of the car - soft, medium or firm (keep in mind I will have to live with it on NH streets too)? Should I overfill the oil a bit? If so how much? What am I missing? Thanks, Scott |
scott_in_nh |
May 6 2013, 02:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
So I have a stock front bar and a rear bar to put in (but haven't yet).
Everyone says to not run the rear bar in AX anyway, but I am experiencing a fair amount of body roll and am considering the 140 lbs. springs instead. 1) will the ride still be decent enough for a date car or is my girlfriend going to hate it? 2)will they help with the body roll, thereby increasing traction and lowering course times? 3)what is the best way to get back to the correct ride height? I'll be mounting them on the old 3 click Koni's I have and would assume some type of spacer would be the quick way.... |
SirAndy |
May 6 2013, 05:48 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
So I have a stock front bar and a rear bar to put in (but haven't yet). Everyone says to not run the rear bar in AX anyway, but I am experiencing a fair amount of body roll and am considering the 140 lbs. springs instead. 1) will the ride still be decent enough for a date car or is my girlfriend going to hate it? 2)will they help with the body roll, thereby increasing traction and lowering course times? 3)what is the best way to get back to the correct ride height? I'll be mounting them on the old 3 click Koni's I have and would assume some type of spacer would be the quick way.... Slow down ... This is your 2nd AX? Stop thinking about what you want to do to the car. Forget new tires. Forget new springs. Forget new sway bars. Get a good instructor the next time you go out. Listen to them. Then listen some more. Drive the car the way it is right now. You need to get a good feel for a stock car on stock tires before you start fiddling with the car setup and components. I bet a good instructor can help you shave several seconds off your times. For free. Then get seat time. Lots of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) PS: Save the new and shiny parts for next season ... |
Randal |
May 6 2013, 06:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
So I have a stock front bar and a rear bar to put in (but haven't yet). Everyone says to not run the rear bar in AX anyway, but I am experiencing a fair amount of body roll and am considering the 140 lbs. springs instead. 1) will the ride still be decent enough for a date car or is my girlfriend going to hate it? 2)will they help with the body roll, thereby increasing traction and lowering course times? 3)what is the best way to get back to the correct ride height? I'll be mounting them on the old 3 click Koni's I have and would assume some type of spacer would be the quick way.... Slow down ... This is your 2nd AX? Stop thinking about what you want to do to the car. Forget new tires. Forget new springs. Forget new sway bars. Get a good instructor the next time you go out. Listen to them. Then listen some more. Drive the car the way it is right now. You need to get a good feel for a stock car on stock tires before you start fiddling with the car setup and components. I bet a good instructor can help you shave several seconds off your times. For free. Then get seat time. Lots of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) PS: Save the new and shiny parts for next season ... To echo Andy's advice. I listened to Rich Bontempi (High Performance House) when he told me to do nothing but drive for the first year. Also to go to every autox school you can find and take instructors on rides at every event. I've never had a student that I couldn't get to shave off 7-10 seconds on a 60 second course, so just the car you have is good enough. Just set the tire pressure low enough so that you don't have roll over and you are good to go. BTW Hank Watt's book on autoxing is good reading material. All the basics are in the book. http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Solo-Racing-...g/dp/0962057312 The only thing I didn't like in the book is his instruction on hand positioning, but this is stuff you'll learn after the basics. |
SirAndy |
May 6 2013, 06:13 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
The only thing I didn't like in the book is his instruction on hand positioning, but this is stuff you'll learn after the basics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I tried to use his method but it just doesn't feel right. I have my own way which seems to work ok, but most of all comes natural, without thinking. The best advice i can give as far as hand positioning goes, either grab the steering wheel really firm or let go of it. The knock-back can really hurt your fingers and arms and sometimes it's best to just let go, wait for it to straighten itself out and grab it again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
Randal |
May 6 2013, 06:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
The only thing I didn't like in the book is his instruction on hand positioning, but this is stuff you'll learn after the basics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I tried to use his method but it just doesn't feel right. I have my own way which seems to work ok, but most of all comes natural, without thinking. The best advice i can give as far as hand positioning goes, either grab the steering wheel really firm or let go of it. The knock-back can really hurt your fingers and arms and sometimes it's best to just let go, wait for it to straighten itself out and grab it again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) I didn't like it either. My favorite way is to drop my opposite hand to the bottom of the steering wheel (right hand for left turn or left hand for right turn). Then, approaching the corner, start moving the bottom hand up, and move your opposite hand down so that your hands are parallel to the ground when you're in the middle of the corner. You have so much more control this way. Watch any autox and see how many people are trying to counter steer or whatever with their hands crossed! Like trying to drive up-side-down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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