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> Oil system diagram, and oil cooler installation & routing
stugray
post Aug 15 2013, 02:24 PM
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I would like to design a dry-sump type of system for my race car.

One thing I have found is that diagrams that show how the stock system works and how to modify it for other parts (coolers, dry sump, "full flow",etc) are hard to find.
So I made this diagram in Visio (CAD-like) so I can move parts around and ask the proper questions.

Does anyone have any suggestions or comments about making the diagram 100% correct before I start trying to modify it?

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I could provide the original file, but not too many out there have visio.

My next step is to get out a spare case so I can see EXACTLY where these parts go, exactly what any adapter might look like, and identify where all of the galley plugs would be in the diagram.

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ChrisFoley
post Aug 16 2013, 06:40 AM
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I'm developing a kit to delete the stock cooler completely.
I think they are ineffective, especially on modified engines, and the cooling air from the fan would be better used on the cylinders.
The kit will include a take-off for a remote cooler which can go anywhere the user likes.
I also don't much like the sandwich plates or the "full flow" case mods commonly used. They add unnecessary complexity to the assembly.
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Aug 16 2013, 04:40 AM) *

I'm developing a kit to delete the stock cooler completely.
I think they are ineffective, especially on modified engines, and the cooling air from the fan would be better used on the cylinders.
The kit will include a take-off for a remote cooler which can go anywhere the user likes.
I also don't much like the sandwich plates or the "full flow" case mods commonly used. They add unnecessary complexity to the assembly.

Hi Chris,
I want it. Do I have to drop the engine? Also, how is the fan flow rerouted. Thanks for taking this on. You do great stuff.
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post Aug 18 2013, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(worn @ Aug 17 2013, 11:42 PM) *

Hi Chris,
I want it. Do I have to drop the engine? Also, how is the fan flow rerouted. Thanks for taking this on. You do great stuff.

Removing the cooler really isn't much more difficult than replacing the seals with the engine in the car.
The 3 studs need to be removed anyway, to be replaced with short studs or 20mm hex head screws.
The fitting adapter is much like an old type 1 remote cooler adapter but designed to route the hoses where we need them.
The right side cooling flap will be replaced with a fixed piece which closes off the oil cooler air passage completely.

To my mind this is a far better setup than either a sandwich plate cooler takeoff or a full flow case modification.
The stock filter is retained with no mods, therefore the filter bypass is unaffected, and there is no interference with engine mounts, etc.

A remote thermostat is incorporated in the hose routing, and a choice of rear or front mounted cooler is easily accomodated.
My barebones kit will terminate at the thermostat, leaving the user to select his cooler of choice and supply the appropriate hoses.

I've discovered that even the stock cooler mounted in a less than ideal remote location provides better oil cooling than when mounted on the engine and cooled by shroud blown air.
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stugray   Oil system diagram   Aug 15 2013, 02:24 PM
yeahmag   I wouldn't try and reinvent the wheel... The C...   Aug 15 2013, 02:27 PM
stugray   the CB dual pump was going to be one of my first c...   Aug 15 2013, 03:21 PM
mrbubblehead   i posted some diagrams of my system but they were ...   Aug 15 2013, 03:40 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Is this what you need?   Aug 15 2013, 03:42 PM
stugray   mrbubblehead, please post links to your diagrams. ...   Aug 15 2013, 05:27 PM
Racer Chris   I'm developing a kit to delete the stock coole...   Aug 16 2013, 06:40 AM
worn   I'm developing a kit to delete the stock cool...   Aug 17 2013, 10:42 PM
Racer Chris   Hi Chris, I want it. Do I have to drop the engin...   Aug 18 2013, 07:33 AM
motorvated   You labeled the oil filter bypass incorrectly.   Aug 16 2013, 06:45 AM
mrbubblehead   heres my basic plan. i will have to draw up the fu...   Aug 16 2013, 03:51 PM
stugray   mrbubblehead, thank you. your diagrams from the o...   Aug 16 2013, 04:26 PM
stugray   Better diagram: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uplo...   Aug 17 2013, 01:18 AM
Dave_Darling   You're not going to remove the cooler from the...   Aug 17 2013, 11:01 PM
ClayPerrine   You're not going to remove the cooler from th...   Aug 17 2013, 11:14 PM
stugray   The next stage is remote oil filter bracket with r...   Aug 18 2013, 12:40 AM
N_Jay   The next stage is remote oil filter bracket with ...   Sep 24 2016, 08:11 AM
stugray   So I went ahead and used the car for one season (p...   Nov 23 2015, 09:40 PM
stugray   Finally updated my drawing to match my current con...   Sep 24 2016, 07:26 AM
Kansas 914   Great work and write up. I need to do something on...   Sep 24 2016, 07:44 AM
stugray   Ok, here;s my latest: This is right after engine ...   Nov 17 2016, 11:28 PM
Mark Henry   What was wrong with buying the $10 off the sh...   Nov 18 2016, 06:40 AM
stugray   What was wrong with buying the $10 off the s...   Nov 18 2016, 11:21 AM
Mark Henry   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2424396' date='Nov...   Nov 18 2016, 01:19 PM
bulitt   Owned a car once with factory dry sump and the res...   Nov 18 2016, 07:30 AM


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