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post Dec 6 2013, 11:18 AM
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For my Suby 6 conversion I've installed a twin fan system (from a Dodge) on my radiator. One is single speed (3 wire) and the other is 2 speed (4 wire). Which one of these 2 fans comes on first? Do they both run at times? Will I use the 2nd speed of the 2 speed motor?
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post Dec 9 2013, 07:12 PM
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I'm having one hell of a time locating a radiator anything close to the one you have. I started thinking about a compact sized radiator, and that took me to looking at two smaller radiators. I think the Boxster does something like that too.

What do people think about using two smaller motorcycle or quad radiators.

I could mount two of these, and put the Intercooler radiator in between them...all up front without taking up too much room.


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post Dec 9 2013, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(CptTripps @ Dec 9 2013, 05:12 PM) *

I'm having one hell of a time locating a radiator anything close to the one you have. I started thinking about a compact sized radiator, and that took me to looking at two smaller radiators. I think the Boxster does something like that too.

What do people think about using two smaller motorcycle or quad radiators.

I could mount two of these, and put the Intercooler radiator in between them...all up front without taking up too much room.

Horse Power equals heat. You need to be able to dissipate the heat. Most motorcycles make less than 100hp, so you would in theory need 4 radiators rated for 100hp to cool 400hp. It doesn't really work that way since it's not a linear equation.

Things to consider:

1) Surface area - larger surface area will have better heat transfer. Small radiators look cool but may not be cool.

2) Water flow - too much or too little water flow will reduce heat transfer.

3) Air flow - radiator must be sealed with a shroud to prevent air flow around the radiator. Air will follow the path of least resistance.

4) Confection - To create a low pressure area behind the radiator to promote air flow. Most of us accomplish this by having a larger outlet for air and a smaller inlet in the bumper. This creates a high pressure zone in front of the radiator.

5) Fans - fans must pull air through the radiator. Never push through.

6) Surface tension - Increasing the surface tension of the water can promote better heat transfer. This is accomplished by using a product like "Water Wetter" or "Purple Ice"

7) Tuning - an improperly tuned engine can create additional heat.

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76-914   Water Cooled Question   Dec 6 2013, 11:18 AM
mikesmith   For my Suby 6 conversion I've installed a twi...   Dec 6 2013, 11:29 AM
76-914   I'm using the stock OEM Suby ECU.   Dec 6 2013, 12:30 PM
mikesmith   Based on a quick Google search, it looks like ther...   Dec 6 2013, 02:40 PM
BIGKAT_83   I would turn the two speed on first at low speed a...   Dec 6 2013, 04:58 PM
mgp4591   I would turn the two speed on first at low speed ...   Dec 6 2013, 06:28 PM
76-914   I would turn the two speed on first at low speed ...   Dec 7 2013, 08:41 PM
andys   I would turn the two speed on first at low speed ...   Dec 9 2013, 01:21 PM
BIGKAT_83   I would turn the two speed on first at low speed...   Dec 9 2013, 01:45 PM
BIGKAT_83   Started with a EG 3.3 and have since changed to a ...   Dec 6 2013, 06:34 PM
mgp4591   Started with a EG 3.3 and have since changed to a...   Dec 6 2013, 06:50 PM
Tom   Old engineering principle , KISS. The more complic...   Dec 6 2013, 07:17 PM
mgp4591   Old engineering principle , KISS. The more compli...   Dec 6 2013, 09:06 PM
Mike Bellis   I have mine on a dual thermostatic relays. They al...   Dec 6 2013, 09:33 PM
76-914   I have mine on a dual thermostatic relays. They a...   Dec 7 2013, 08:43 PM
76-914   Help :blink: I'm trying to figure this schema...   Dec 8 2013, 08:41 PM
Mike Bellis   Help :blink: I'm trying to figure this schem...   Dec 8 2013, 09:22 PM
Tom   Kent, It looks like both pins 33 and 42 would n...   Dec 9 2013, 02:16 AM
Chris H.   Kent, Don't want to throw a wrench into thin...   Dec 9 2013, 09:48 AM
BIGKAT_83   You can cool these subarus with almost anything. T...   Dec 9 2013, 10:24 AM
Chris H.   What the... Bob you have one of every motorized th...   Dec 9 2013, 10:31 AM
CptTripps   That is an awesome setup! Lots less intrusive ...   Dec 9 2013, 12:29 PM
CptTripps   I'm having one hell of a time locating a radia...   Dec 9 2013, 07:12 PM
Mike Bellis   I'm having one hell of a time locating a radi...   Dec 9 2013, 08:02 PM
skeates   I'm having one hell of a time locating a rad...   Dec 10 2013, 01:08 PM
Mike Bellis   A little "confection" goes a long way i...   Dec 10 2013, 07:39 PM
BIGKAT_83   I'm having one hell of a time locating a radi...   Dec 10 2013, 05:49 AM
76-914   Mike & Tom, Thanks for explaining things to me...   Dec 9 2013, 07:27 PM
BIGKAT_83   Mike & Tom, Thanks for explaining things to m...   Dec 9 2013, 07:34 PM
76-914   Spoke too soon. I see relay 2 powering Fan #1 @ hi...   Dec 9 2013, 07:44 PM
CptTripps   That got me thinking...what about the front radiat...   Dec 10 2013, 10:07 AM
Mike Bellis   That got me thinking...what about the front radia...   Dec 10 2013, 10:27 AM
CptTripps   YeH, that's what I'm thinking too. Looks a...   Dec 10 2013, 12:35 PM
76-914   Got my fans & relays wired in tonite :Qarl: I...   Dec 12 2013, 10:12 PM
Chris H.   Gotta bump this great thread...Just a quick questi...   Aug 25 2014, 11:22 AM
76-914   Es verdad, Christo. Looks funny but think of stack...   Aug 25 2014, 05:20 PM
Chris H.   Cool thanks Kent! Just seemed weird not groun...   Aug 25 2014, 05:22 PM
76-914   Thought I'd add this bit of info re: this styl...   Sep 1 2014, 10:06 AM
messix   Thought I'd add this bit of info re: this sty...   Sep 1 2014, 10:54 AM


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