Fake VIN number, 1970 needs one last number |
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Fake VIN number, 1970 needs one last number |
pgollender |
Jan 17 2015, 08:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Sacramento Member No.: 13,281 Region Association: Northern California |
My 1970 with a california re-assigned ID number is ready to go back on the road after nearly 5 years of restoration. When I bought the car it had a California re-assigned ID number because of a falsified VIN. About 10 years ago there was an investigation by a Fresno police officer that used a Fry's method of recovering the real VIN. His investigation was almost successful, he identified and recovered NINE out of TEN digits. So the car is one of 10 possible.
If the group can help by supplying any of the missing known numbers that would greatly enhance the chance of restoring the true ID number of my vechicle by process of elimination> This is the partial number: 4702905_48. Anybody that has that third digit could respond. If I get lucky, REALLY lucky, I'll have 9 responses. Any help is appreciated. |
pgollender |
Jan 18 2015, 08:52 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Sacramento Member No.: 13,281 Region Association: Northern California |
Did Karmann ever keep records of chassis numbers matched with VIN's ?
Silly question, but does anyone know when the VIN is actually applied , like at the very last stage of completion or if the VIN was actually stamped at the factory? 914 VIN numbers look like they were applied with a cold punch tool by hand, at least my two other 914's looked that way. Kinda sloppy. Is there a way to contact the old Karmann-Porsche factory ? I'm assuming this question probably has been asked before. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
Johny Blackstain |
Jan 18 2015, 10:49 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Did Karmann ever keep records of chassis numbers matched with VIN's ? Silly question, but does anyone know when the VIN is actually applied , like at the very last stage of completion or if the VIN was actually stamped at the factory? 914 VIN numbers look like they were applied with a cold punch tool by hand, at least my two other 914's looked that way. Kinda sloppy. Is there a way to contact the old Karmann-Porsche factory ? I'm assuming this question probably has been asked before. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) The chassis number is Karmann only, the VIN is a VW-Porsche number. You might be able to match the VIN to the chassis number via Porsche, but I seriously doubt it through Karmann. If I'm not mistaken, Karmann has filed for bankruptcy & might not be around anymore. From Wiki: Bankruptcy[edit] Family strains of the third generation of Karmanns contributed to bankruptcy of the company.[7] Falling demand along with other financially connected businesses forced the company to file for protective insolvency on 8 April 2009. Insolvency practitioner Ottmar Hermann followed some of the approach seen with the earlier insolvency of Woolworths' German business, and the Karmann business is emerging with little independence, but supported by significant cash investment from long-standing customer Volkswagen.[8][9] On 8 April 2009, Karmann filed for bankruptcy protection due to the sharp decline in demand for cars, and the company's financial obligations.[10] Volkswagen revealed on 24 October 2009, that it had made an offer to acquire long-time partner Karmann.[11] On 20 November 2009 Volkswagen said that it would buy Karmann's site at Osnabrück, to produce a new vehicle. On 4 November 2010 Valmet Automotive signed an agreement to buy Karmann's roof-component sections in Osnabrück, Germany, and Żary, Poland.[12] Karmann's North American operations were sold August 2010 to Webasto Group.[13] |
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