Fake VIN number, 1970 needs one last number |
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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
Fake VIN number, 1970 needs one last number |
pgollender |
Jan 17 2015, 08:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Sacramento Member No.: 13,281 Region Association: Northern California |
My 1970 with a california re-assigned ID number is ready to go back on the road after nearly 5 years of restoration. When I bought the car it had a California re-assigned ID number because of a falsified VIN. About 10 years ago there was an investigation by a Fresno police officer that used a Fry's method of recovering the real VIN. His investigation was almost successful, he identified and recovered NINE out of TEN digits. So the car is one of 10 possible.
If the group can help by supplying any of the missing known numbers that would greatly enhance the chance of restoring the true ID number of my vechicle by process of elimination> This is the partial number: 4702905_48. Anybody that has that third digit could respond. If I get lucky, REALLY lucky, I'll have 9 responses. Any help is appreciated. |
pgollender |
Jan 20 2015, 11:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Sacramento Member No.: 13,281 Region Association: Northern California |
Back to chassis numbers:
First two digits are weeks, Third digit is day of week "9" is Karmann plant "95"xx, production less than 101 cars for the day "96"xx, production less than 201 cars for the day "97"xx, production less than 301 cars for the day last three are unique serial # 6xx or 7xx Are there any instances when the third digit, the day of the week anything BUT one through one through five ? Monday through Friday ? Any Saturdays, i.e., = 6 or Sundays, i.e., =7 |
Tom_T |
Jan 20 2015, 11:58 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Back to chassis numbers: First two digits are weeks, Third digit is day of week "9" is Karmann plant "95"xx, production less than 101 cars for the day "96"xx, production less than 201 cars for the day "97"xx, production less than 301 cars for the day last three are unique serial # 6xx or 7xx Are there any instances when the third digit, the day of the week anything BUT one through one through five ? Monday through Friday ? Any Saturdays, i.e., = 6 or Sundays, i.e., =7 AFAIK - No. Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but a 6 or 7 would be obvious! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Remember, this was Europe with long standing trade unions & mandatory month-long summer shut downs for Vacation! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
SirAndy |
Jan 20 2015, 12:41 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Remember, this was Europe with long standing trade unions & mandatory month-long summer shut downs for Vacation! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And don't forget the free beer at lunchtime! The Unions fought hard to have that included in the contracts (no joke here). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Tom_T |
Jan 20 2015, 01:29 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Remember, this was Europe with long standing trade unions & mandatory month-long summer shut downs for Vacation! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And don't forget the free beer at lunchtime! The Unions fought hard to have that included in the contracts (no joke here). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Yes ... & it shows in some of the late-in-the-day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) 914 builds too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) I think that's why that other Orange/Black early 73 2L John L (avidfan) used to own has Chassis dated about 10 days before mine, but his got a 9/72 VIN sticker date - While mine was a 8/72 sticker date with an 8/31/72 Chassis # - a REALLY FAST 1 day build!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
SirAndy |
Jan 20 2015, 01:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I think that's why that other Orange/Black early 73 2L John L (avidfan) used to own has Chassis dated about 10 days before mine, but his got a 9/72 VIN sticker date - While mine was a 8/72 sticker date with an 8/31/72 Chassis # - a REALLY FAST 1 day build!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Actually, that has nothing to do with beer. Chassis numbers, VINs and US build date decals have no direct relationship. The chassis numbers were stamped at Karman to keep track of the *raw* bodies produced. They were *not* in sequence with the VIN numbers assigned to the finished cars and they were *not* in sequence with the "build date" on the US compliance stickers. The US compliance decals were added after the cars left the assembly line, just before the cars were loaded on the trains to be shipped to the US. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
Tom_T |
Jan 20 2015, 01:59 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
I think that's why that other Orange/Black early 73 2L John L (avidfan) used to own has Chassis dated about 10 days before mine, but his got a 9/72 VIN sticker date - While mine was a 8/72 sticker date with an 8/31/72 Chassis # - a REALLY FAST 1 day build!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Actually, that has nothing to do with beer. Chassis numbers, VINs and US build date decals have no direct relationship. The chassis numbers were stamped at Karman to keep track of the *raw* bodies produced. They were *not* in sequence with the VIN numbers assigned to the finished cars and they were *not* in sequence with the "build date" on the US compliance stickers. The US compliance decals were added after the cars left the assembly line, just before the cars were loaded on the trains to be shipped to the US. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Oh Geez Andy .... take a joke as a joke! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) If you want to get "Teutonically Technical," then I'll bring out my German side & also point out that there were *NO* *ONE* *DAY* Builds either! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Did you like my alliteration? ... also a joke! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Have a Good Lunch! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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