Fake VIN number, 1970 needs one last number |
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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
Fake VIN number, 1970 needs one last number |
pgollender |
Jan 17 2015, 08:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Sacramento Member No.: 13,281 Region Association: Northern California |
My 1970 with a california re-assigned ID number is ready to go back on the road after nearly 5 years of restoration. When I bought the car it had a California re-assigned ID number because of a falsified VIN. About 10 years ago there was an investigation by a Fresno police officer that used a Fry's method of recovering the real VIN. His investigation was almost successful, he identified and recovered NINE out of TEN digits. So the car is one of 10 possible.
If the group can help by supplying any of the missing known numbers that would greatly enhance the chance of restoring the true ID number of my vechicle by process of elimination> This is the partial number: 4702905_48. Anybody that has that third digit could respond. If I get lucky, REALLY lucky, I'll have 9 responses. Any help is appreciated. |
Tom_T |
Jan 20 2015, 08:32 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Also Paul,
The same thing was happening with all of the 914 parts as they grabbed them willy-nilly, such that the engine & transaxle case #s, etc. won't be in any sort of sequential order with the VINs, chassis # etc. That really wasn't unusual to the 914s, nor Karmann either, as all auto makers pretty much did it that way. However, to clarify, once those numbers are all linked up to one VIN, then those are the matching #s for that car. So if any of those show on your car's Kardex & COA, then those are the correct matching #'s sought after - assuming there is no writing mistake when originally written on the cards, nor reading it back to make up the COA. Socalandy with the yellow wide body 914-6 that's a past COTM here last year, & is pictured at my 918 topic at the PCA Zone 8 Concours last Sat., has an original 914-6 940xxxx engine case # ending in ...12, but the Kardex reads ...11 (or visa versa) - so something is amiss there, even though the sixes were assembled at Stuttgart (not at Karmann, who shipped the bodies to Stutt.). I think it's less likely that that a PO just happened to find the case # one digit off in sequence - but it could happen - than somebody had either mis-written the case # on the Kardex - or that the PCNA person has mis-read it! .... or it could be a completely wrong case # on the Kardex. Unfortunately, PCNA won't let us have a copy of the actual Kardex - why I do not know - but if they bring out their computers with the digitized Kardex microfilm records to a Parade, Tech Session or some other event where they let owners "look at" their Kardex or other base records, then one could perhaps see if & where the error could be!! Also of note, at the beginning of a new model year, it was common to use up any old parts from the prior MY - even if the new MY had a change to them, so you'll get a mix-n-match of some older parts on a newer model car. That happened with my early-73, which originally had the chrome-style 70-72 MY window cranks & door handle surrounds - rather than the all black ones of 73-76 (the OO/PO & I had to change them out when the original cranks broke over time & use); & mine also has the "early" 70-72 rear single-bleeder calipers & the "late" 73-76 double-bleeder front calipers. I know what was on my 73 2L from the start, since I'm the 2nd owner & I knew the original owner couple too, & they sold it to me at just over 3 years old. It sold new 11/6/72, I first looked at buying it & did a PPI in Nov. 75, & it officially sold 12/26/72 after all the loan & DMV paperwork cleared - at almost 38 months old! Now we're BOTH well over 42 years old & I have another 20.5 on the 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/white914.jpg) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slits.gif) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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