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> 1984 Porsche 914 with Wrong Title - 26 bids
jagalyn
post Mar 5 2019, 07:12 PM
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1984 - 914 on Ebay with title that is not a 914... and 26 bids???? But 'Clean Title'.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Porsche-914/3...4gAAOSwpp1cfX2A


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post Mar 6 2019, 03:26 PM
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If the title VIN matches the VIN on the car you can always just throw the plates away and DMV will issue new ones, doesn’t seem like that big of a deal
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post Mar 6 2019, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Tdskip @ Mar 6 2019, 01:26 PM) *

If the title VIN matches the VIN on the car you can always just throw the plates away and DMV will issue new ones, doesn’t seem like that big of a deal


My point was that there could be title issues if there is a mismatch, & nothing with CA DMV is easy!

You generally need to turn in the old plates to DMV to get new ones - unless there are none on the car - so you can't just throw away old plates & hope that they'll issue new ones. I've been through this DMV dance before, as have many friends, & they can be complete a-holes!

Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-Op, then you can get stuck for $1000s fo fines & penalties - on top of your sales tax, transfer & title/registration fees.

So yes it can be a big deal.
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post Mar 6 2019, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 6 2019, 01:51 PM) *

Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-Op, then you can get stuck for $1000s fo fines & penalties - on top of your sales tax, transfer & title/registration fees.


If it hasn't been registered or non-op'ed in long enough, it falls out of the system, and there are no extra penalties. Sadly, I don't remember how long it takes for that to happen.

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post Mar 6 2019, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Mar 6 2019, 02:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 6 2019, 01:51 PM) *

Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-Op, then you can get stuck for $1000s fo fines & penalties - on top of your sales tax, transfer & title/registration fees.


If it hasn't been registered or non-op'ed in long enough, it falls out of the system, and there are no extra penalties. Sadly, I don't remember how long it takes for that to happen.

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The magic number is 7 years Dave, then it usually drops off the CA-DMV system.

I found that out when trying to get to the microfilm records back to the OO who I bought my 73 2L from back in 1975 using the DMV's Info Request form/process, but my Non-Op had lapsed in `92, so they had no records anymore.

Back in 1992 DMV Sacto HQ gave me 2 bad choices for being a week late (renewal date was 12/26 & they never mailed the `92 notice) - new plates & some high additional fees, or huge penalties to keep my original blue/yellow plates. Since it's not been driveable since 1985, I've just stored it in my garage since then, & will tackle the DMV at the point when it's restored/repaired & ready to put back on the road.

Currently DMV does have the regs to charge the penalties plus interest for non-registered cars, & some folks have been able to get around them - including taking the car out of state to re-register, then "importing" it back into CA, but that requires that you have a clean & correct title.

Because I have all of my prior reg cards 1975-92, the original plates that match the reg & title, & the car has been in my possession from 12/26/7 to present & stored off-street - I possibly have a good chance of getting my registration restarted with my original plates - but who knows at what cost! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
It certainly won't be the few dollars that Mark E. is used to paying!

This seller appears to have a set of mismatched titles, plates, month stickers, etc. which won't be an easy fix for a buyer taking the car on faith.

DMV tends to change their policy as the state's tax needs change - with heavy penalties added when they're hungry, & waivers when they're trying to rope in unlicensed owners under their occasional amnesty programs.

So I'm in a similar position as this seller - but I'll be keeping mine, not selling like this guy is doing. The seller will be best served to get his own title & registration issues cleared up prior to selling, then he can do a clean & clear title transfer as required by CA law - no matter which state the buyer is in. If not, the buyer has recourse, & the seller can be criminally charged - even if he's an old guy.

And watch that senile old guy commentary Wes - as I resemble that remark! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

And for Steinkamp & others thinking along his lines - NO I'm not a prospective buyer of yet more problems of yet another 914 that needs a lot of TLC!

I'm providing my cautions to those who may want to buy it, since it keeps coming up on new topics 3-4+/- times already.

At best there are paperwork & plate issues to be resolved - while at worst it could be a scam or selling a stolen car, etc.

So I'm suggesting that anyone interested in buying the car - even if you live in NV or PA/DE where apparently they don't check the national DVM registry & register any old thing - exercise caution in any prospective purchase.

Also give the crap quality of the few pix - ask for more pix or better yet, go inspect the car.

I'd hate to see this become another horror story of what went wrong with yet another sight unseen evil-bay purchase of a problem 914, that we see posted on 914world every so often.

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jagalyn   1984 Porsche 914 with Wrong Title - 26 bids   Mar 5 2019, 07:12 PM
poorsche914   Yeah, I just messaged the seller letting him know ...   Mar 5 2019, 07:14 PM
My 914   It's an 84.   Mar 5 2019, 07:38 PM
DickSteinkamp   He's also got a 924 listed. I think he just g...   Mar 5 2019, 07:58 PM
Valy   So one title has the wrong VIN (obviously 944). An...   Mar 5 2019, 10:32 PM
jmitro   So one title has the wrong VIN (obviously 944). A...   Mar 6 2019, 02:48 PM
Tom_T   So one title has the wrong VIN (obviously 944). ...   Mar 6 2019, 02:52 PM
76-914   No money shots to verify it's condition but th...   Mar 6 2019, 09:10 AM
DickSteinkamp   It's the kind of listing most people won't...   Mar 6 2019, 09:25 AM
iwanta914-6   It's the kind of listing most people won...   Mar 6 2019, 10:00 AM
mepstein   It's the kind of listing most people won...   Mar 6 2019, 10:49 AM
Tom_T   :idea: Hmmm... A 74 914 listed as an 84 with pl...   Mar 6 2019, 02:23 PM
Tdskip   If the title VIN matches the VIN on the car you ca...   Mar 6 2019, 03:26 PM
Tom_T   If the title VIN matches the VIN on the car you c...   Mar 6 2019, 03:51 PM
Tdskip   If the title VIN matches the VIN on the car you ...   Mar 6 2019, 04:22 PM
Dave_Darling   Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-O...   Mar 6 2019, 04:58 PM
mepstein   Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-...   Mar 6 2019, 05:36 PM
wes   Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-...   Mar 6 2019, 05:51 PM
Valy   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2694663' date='Mar 6 2...   Mar 6 2019, 06:28 PM
Tom_T   Also, if it's not kept registered or on Non-...   Mar 6 2019, 07:17 PM
Chris914n6   Can't speak for CA but in Nevada the vehicle c...   Mar 6 2019, 04:16 PM
DickSteinkamp   Me thinks those that describe lots of potential pr...   Mar 6 2019, 05:29 PM
sb914   :deadhorse:   Mar 6 2019, 05:58 PM
wes   Sorry Tom :beer2: didn’t know anyone older th...   Mar 6 2019, 09:46 PM
Tom_T   Sorry Tom :beer2: didn’t know anyone older t...   Mar 6 2019, 10:12 PM
DickSteinkamp   One of the great things about this forum. A real ...   Mar 6 2019, 10:44 PM
MiniStevieG   Just happened to notice this as well when I was ch...   Mar 6 2019, 11:14 PM
wes   I’ve often thought the 914 to be a newer years c...   Mar 7 2019, 01:35 AM
Tom_T   I’ve often thought the 914 to be a newer years ...   Mar 7 2019, 02:28 AM


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