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> K&N garbage, need replacement recommendations
vitamin914
post Feb 1 2023, 07:42 AM
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My 2.4 L with Weber 44 IDF carbs, came with no name air filters. Could not find a source for the weird sized ovals and decided to replace the entire assemblies. I found a kit from K&N made for the Weber 44s (K&N 56-1170). Didn't think much of the flimsy quality but better than nothing - or so I thought.

After I installed them I drove around very little, maybe 50 miles at most before the 914 went into winter storage. I noticed one of the tin caps had lost the screw - I hope like hell it fell out onto the road and not someplace where it can do damage.

I know I tightened them down to the point where I was afraid I would crush the filter or bend the tin cap. Checked the other side that still had the screw, it was not as tight as I had originally made it. It too had backed off. Took off the cap and pulled out the filter element on the carb where the screw went missing... WTF? it is warped? Looked closer and the damn thing is full of holes. Like some have said an old sock over the carbs would be better than a K&N filter. See the photos.

Not going to have the screws fall out again - I replaced the taper flathead screw with a screw from below (with red loctite) and jam nuts on top of the tin cover.

I have joined those who hate K&N - never again. So much so, that I want to get rid of them and replace them with something more reliable that actually filters air.

I need some help sourcing air filter assemblies for Weber 44 IDFs. Is there anything you would recommend, readily available, that is a better filter (paper element?) and looks nice?


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post Feb 1 2023, 10:22 PM
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I would bet you could find a round paper element filter the same diameter as the oval K&Ns and squish them down to fit in the housing.

CSP does (or did) make a cleaner for a Type IV. @rgolia has one.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2695882
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And if you are interested in going my crazy route that @Superhawk996 mentioned, here's more info:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=352004

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vitamin914   K&N garbage   Feb 1 2023, 07:42 AM
barefoot   Mine came with Dellotoro brand filters & 2 bol...   Feb 1 2023, 08:26 AM
BillJ   Yeah i am used to seeing the two bolt versions. O...   Feb 1 2023, 08:35 AM
BillJ   Now that i think of it you could easily do the win...   Feb 1 2023, 08:40 AM
Craigers17   I got my stuff through CBPerformance. I haven...   Feb 1 2023, 09:06 AM
JmuRiz   Bummer about the filter gap, not much you can do a...   Feb 1 2023, 09:13 AM
Bullethead   ITG or RamAir filters are probably the most free-f...   Feb 1 2023, 10:18 AM
Superhawk996   K&N not necessarily bad for what they are but ...   Feb 1 2023, 11:18 AM
vitamin914   K&N not necessarily bad for what they are but...   Feb 1 2023, 03:14 PM
Superhawk996   I want to get rid of the K&N housing all tog...   Feb 1 2023, 06:39 PM
PCH   I second the CBPerformance stuff. The K&N stuf...   Feb 1 2023, 12:41 PM
PCH   PS: I notice the round hole in the engine tin on t...   Feb 1 2023, 12:47 PM
vitamin914   PS: I notice the round hole in the engine tin on ...   Feb 1 2023, 02:37 PM
rhodyguy   I found cleaning and re-oiling the K&Ns a mess...   Feb 1 2023, 05:37 PM
Superhawk996   Ancient thread but it will give you an idea of the...   Feb 1 2023, 06:50 PM
rhodyguy   Where does that ship from? Individual, convention...   Feb 1 2023, 07:11 PM
Superhawk996   Where does that ship from? Individual, conventio...   Feb 1 2023, 07:30 PM
vitamin914   The CSP air box is an interesting setup. Expensiv...   Feb 1 2023, 08:22 PM
bbrock   I would bet you could find a round paper element f...   Feb 1 2023, 10:22 PM
ChrisFoley   I sell ITGs   Feb 2 2023, 05:17 AM
BillJ   I saw Ralphs CSP setup and it is very very clean. ...   Feb 2 2023, 06:20 AM
Front yard mechanic   I wanted to try these from ram air I put one on my...   Feb 2 2023, 06:26 AM


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