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> VW Badge location & body numbers, Challenge to determine beginning & end
davep
post Sep 23 2007, 06:23 PM
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I require help with my research.
Typically, the VW badge was riveted to the right headlight bucket up to the end of 1974 and made its way to the right upper corner of the fuel tank bulkhead in 1975. Also, the body number was originally stamped into the rear trunk floor and made its was to a black riveted tag on the support below the right headlight bucket, as well as being found on the Karmann badge. At some point the body number base changed from xxy95zz to xxy90zz.

I require everyone to help with changeover VIN, and body number for each of the changes. Please add paint code and date code from the compliance decal as well.


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post Mar 18 2022, 06:19 PM
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It would appear then that the 914 shared the Karmann line with Beetles, and the Karmann build # could be for either model. What we need to do then is to gather more examples of the Karmann tag numbers, VIN, DOT labels and paint codes and see how they fit. My guess is that they mesh.
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post Jan 5 2024, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(davep @ Mar 18 2022, 06:19 PM) *

It would appear then that the 914 shared the Karmann line with Beetles, and the Karmann build # could be for either model. What we need to do then is to gather more examples of the Karmann tag numbers, VIN, DOT labels and paint codes and see how they fit. My guess is that they mesh.


stumbled on a VW historical film on you tube.
got some stills.
also got the confirmation date on when scirrocos started production at osnabruck - production commences feb 04 1974.
(this is from VWs own website - where you can download annual reports going back over the years).

film stills show scirroco coming down karmann production line with a 914 and a ghia cabriolet. ghias cease production with end of 74 model year at june 74. so the film had to have been shot between feb 04 74 and june/july 74 during that 5 -6 month period.
these would have been the very first scirrocos sold as 74 model years (mainly in german domestic market at that point).

so for the first 6 months of calendar year 1974 things must have been pretty cramped at karmann factory. 914s, karmann ghias, beetle cabriolets and the new scirrocos were all coming down the line together! they would have been making space for the scirroco line and the 914s must have gone across to be built alongside not only beetle cabs but also the last of the ghias.

the date the 914s get the VW production number rivetted in the front trunk is likely the moment when the line was shifted across and scirrocos took over the old 914 production aisles in the factory.

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of interest in relation to 914 production for 74 MY.
approx 7,500 2.0 cars are produced in a batch from aug to late oct 1973.
only 2.0s were produced during that period.
from there approx 6,500 1.8 L-Jet cars are produced in a batch from late oct 1973 to early Feb 1974. only 1.8s were produced during that period.
from early Feb 1974 to the end of June/beginning of July 1974 a further run of 7000 74 MY cars were produced. these were a mix of 1.8s and 2.0s including the limited editions.
2/3 of 914 1974 MY production was accomplished in the first 6 months of 74 production.
the remaining 1/3 of total were produced in the second six months.
they were definitely making space for scirroco production and stockpiling the 914s before the scirroco line started up.
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davep   VW Badge location & body numbers   Sep 23 2007, 06:23 PM
johannes   mine has the plate on the tank bulkhead. 475900062...   Sep 24 2007, 11:55 AM
Blood red 914-6gt   My car date says 07/74. The plate is up on the hea...   Sep 24 2007, 12:31 PM
sixnotfour   :blink:   Jan 24 2022, 08:50 PM
dpolson   My late '74 LE (...1221) has the body tag down...   Sep 24 2007, 06:28 PM
kconway   My 74 has the plate riveted to the right headlight...   Sep 24 2007, 09:32 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Dave, The lastest VIN I have data on from the LE ...   Sep 25 2007, 03:27 PM
davep   Jeff, you are correct, but I did not expect that i...   Sep 25 2007, 09:06 PM
Gustl   Dave, here are my car's numbers / badges: 47...   Sep 26 2007, 11:04 AM
Gustl   2639549 L 65 K   Sep 26 2007, 11:06 AM
Johny Blackstain   LE has no little plate in the lower front trunk ...   Sep 26 2007, 12:00 PM
Johny Blackstain   LE VIN plate & Kharmann badge-   Sep 26 2007, 12:03 PM
Johny Blackstain   LE VIN sticker & trunk stamping, on right side...   Sep 26 2007, 12:06 PM
davep   That helps guys. Gustl's car moved the week ba...   Sep 26 2007, 04:32 PM
Pat Garvey   This is cool stuff! If I keep watching & ...   Sep 26 2007, 08:18 PM
Johny Blackstain   Dave- the six is a US car, has a windshield VIN pl...   Sep 26 2007, 08:41 PM
HAM Inc   Dave I turned my 74 into a F-Prod car. I stripped ...   Sep 27 2007, 10:33 AM
davep   It has a tag in the spare tire area, but I can...   Sep 27 2007, 11:10 AM
HAM Inc   Yep, it had the black tag. Hope that helps!   Sep 27 2007, 02:03 PM
woobn8r   My '74 VIN# 4742917230 has only two rivet hole...   Oct 2 2007, 10:15 AM
davep   Sean, send me the photos, and I'll post them. ...   Oct 2 2007, 11:05 AM
woobn8r   Sean, send me the photos, and I'll post them....   Oct 2 2007, 12:13 PM
shelby/914   Here's the data on my '74   Oct 3 2007, 08:22 PM
shelby/914   one more, and no #s in the rear trunk   Oct 3 2007, 08:25 PM
sendjonathanmail   S/N: 4742915316 BUILD DATE: 3/74 BODY #: 1039507   Oct 4 2007, 05:30 PM
davep   Please be very specific in your replies. Check bot...   Oct 4 2007, 07:42 PM
woobn8r   It seems to me that woobn8r may have some panels ...   Oct 5 2007, 09:47 AM
sendjonathanmail   alright dave...took a better look, and found it......   Oct 4 2007, 08:27 PM
ClayPerrine   Dave, I got your note. Betty's vin is 474291...   Oct 4 2007, 09:33 PM
davep   Thanks Clay, that does indeed prove the use of the...   Oct 4 2007, 09:57 PM
davep   Sean has provided the following photos. I have no ...   Oct 5 2007, 12:17 PM
davep   closeup shows no holes in bucket, but holes for th...   Oct 5 2007, 12:20 PM
davep   other info   Oct 5 2007, 12:21 PM
jaminM3   Here is a car that was on Ebay( I have been keepin...   Oct 6 2007, 02:43 PM
davep   Well, Dan (shelby/914) confirms he has the number ...   Oct 7 2007, 07:07 PM
sendjonathanmail   took some pics (finally) of the tags in different ...   Oct 19 2007, 04:52 PM
davep   It has been only 13 years, but it is time to resur...   Apr 9 2020, 10:21 PM
davep   So, no response in the last year, but I am forever...   Nov 15 2021, 07:49 AM
wonkipop   So, no response in the last year, but I am foreve...   Jan 24 2022, 10:13 PM
wonkipop   @davep have you tried to pm member oakpark. ha...   Jan 25 2022, 02:13 PM
davep   Thanks for the data point. I have a list of 250 ca...   Jan 25 2022, 07:56 PM
L-Jet914   Thanks for the data point. I have a list of 250 c...   Mar 22 2022, 10:34 PM
L-Jet914   Thanks for the data point. I have a list of 250 c...   May 29 2022, 11:03 PM
wonkipop   yep, its a slog. it is an interesting change. su...   Jan 26 2022, 03:40 AM
L-Jet914   I just got around to logging into the website afte...   Feb 1 2022, 07:52 PM
MCShack   Thanks Clay, that does indeed prove the use of th...   Mar 10 2022, 01:33 PM
MCShack   Notice that the 5th digit (3rd from end) in the Ch...   Mar 10 2022, 01:50 PM
wonkipop   Notice that the 5th digit (3rd from end) in the C...   Mar 12 2022, 05:52 AM
davep   It would appear then that the 914 shared the Karma...   Mar 18 2022, 06:19 PM
wonkipop   It would appear then that the 914 shared the Karm...   Mar 19 2022, 03:39 PM
wonkipop   It would appear then that the 914 shared the Karm...   Jan 5 2024, 03:49 PM
davep   Perhaps there are Karmann aficionados with much gr...   Mar 23 2022, 07:03 PM
wonkipop   Perhaps there are Karmann aficionados with much g...   Mar 23 2022, 07:31 PM
wonkipop   @davep i have worked out a bit more of the patte...   Mar 25 2022, 07:47 AM
wonkipop   @davep and [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Mar 25 2022, 04:51 PM
davep   @wonkipop I have my own sources for data and make...   Mar 26 2022, 07:38 AM
Shivers   RE: VW Badge location & body numbers   May 7 2022, 12:46 PM
Shivers   RE: VW Badge location & body numbers   May 7 2022, 12:47 PM
davep   Thanks for that data point. Did your compliance de...   May 8 2022, 10:07 PM
Shivers   Thanks for that data point. Did your compliance d...   May 8 2022, 11:17 PM
Cairo94507   That's the one. :beer2:   May 9 2022, 09:48 AM
cholland_   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   May 15 2022, 07:24 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   May 16 2022, 06:00 PM
cholland_   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   May 27 2022, 06:24 AM
wonkipop   @cholland_ - hang on to that car mate. :beer2: ...   May 28 2022, 01:56 AM


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