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> rear wing thingie?, does it do anything?
shaggy
post Oct 2 2005, 09:33 PM
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ive seen a few pictures of 914's with this small rear spioler wing thing on the rear trunk lid

do those even create any down force?
is that down force that it would create necessary?

are they coustom made?
where would i go about getting one if they arent?
those things look pretty cool
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post Oct 3 2005, 12:24 PM
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Aerodynamic effects are not always easy to predict. Read a few books on auto aerodynamics and you will see that rear duct-tail spoilers mounted on a flat deck lid can do different things. The basic idea is to catch the airflow across the rear deck and generate a positive pressure over the rear deck which results in downforce. Within limits, the bigger the spoiler the greater the air presure. In the past before NASCAR went to common templates the Pontiac teams always complained that because their rear decks were shorter than the Chevys and Fords they ended up with less downforce for a given spoiler height. On cars where the rear airflow may be separating going over the rear roof and deck a rear spoiler can have the effect of raising the body work and allowing the air to remain attached, reducing drag. It all depends on what the air flow is doing with a particular car.

Wings are more efficient, but spoilers have been around since the sixties sports racers. If you look through some of the historical books on cars such as Chapparal, Ford GT, Shelby Cobras, or the Can-Am McLarens and Lolas you can see how the designers were trying to figure out how spoilers, front and rear, really worked. Modern sports racers like Audi R8s and Lola's don't use exagerated spoilers like they did in the past, because they try to find downforce in more efficient ways, but you can see Gurney flaps (small spoiler lips) used in many locations.
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shaggy   rear wing thingie?   Oct 2 2005, 09:33 PM
redshift   The duck tail? http://www.914world....   Oct 2 2005, 09:35 PM
shaggy   well seeing as how mine tops out at about...maybe....   Oct 2 2005, 09:42 PM
Brad Roberts   Spoilers: disrupt the airflow over the rear deckli...   Oct 2 2005, 09:44 PM
shaggy   thank you so what one is this?   Oct 2 2005, 09:46 PM
Brad Roberts   No problem. I was working with the wing today for ...   Oct 2 2005, 09:50 PM
seanery   shaggy...it's a spoiler   Oct 2 2005, 09:53 PM
Brad Roberts   Um.. is there a reason why I cant see his pic? B   Oct 2 2005, 09:56 PM
Brando   No pic attached... Are you thinking the duck-tail...   Oct 2 2005, 09:58 PM
shaggy   think its a duck tail the name sounds right now t...   Oct 2 2005, 10:02 PM
gregrobbins   If they are painted yellow, they make your car go ...   Oct 2 2005, 10:10 PM
rhodyguy   if your rear lid is nice don't drill a bunch o...   Oct 2 2005, 10:11 PM
trekkor   My duck tail does help, but it's the Sweeper D...   Oct 2 2005, 10:12 PM
redshift   He's obviously talking about it, look at it...   Oct 2 2005, 10:12 PM
shaggy   ya thats it for sure! guess i should work on ...   Oct 2 2005, 10:18 PM
fiid   IMHO the ducktail is there to cause a bigger vacuu...   Oct 2 2005, 10:29 PM
shaggy   id like to eventually...after spending much time e...   Oct 2 2005, 10:33 PM
trekkor   As for drilling holes, if you are installing a spo...   Oct 2 2005, 11:12 PM
porsha916   If you like the way it looks, put one on   Oct 2 2005, 11:59 PM
Andyrew   I personally dont think the ducktail will do much ...   Oct 3 2005, 12:00 AM
xitspd   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Oct 3 2005, 07:55 AM
seanery   Yes, Dan is right, and he has the one that really ...   Oct 3 2005, 08:55 AM
redshift   The front dam definately does more than the duckie...   Oct 3 2005, 09:09 AM
hmeeder   http://content.madirect.com/img300/fr2520.jpg ...   Oct 3 2005, 11:27 AM
SirAndy     Oct 3 2005, 11:49 AM
xitspd     Oct 3 2005, 12:35 PM
john rogers   One area many 914 racers tend to overlook is the v...   Oct 3 2005, 12:36 PM
shaggy   hm... kinda thinkin against the tail now that i ha...   Oct 3 2005, 05:09 PM
Andyrew   Plan on racing the car or what? You wont care abo...   Oct 3 2005, 10:25 PM
groot   It may be good for about 4 pounds of rear downforc...   Oct 4 2005, 05:53 AM
JmuRiz     Oct 4 2005, 08:01 AM
ken914   Instead of the duck tail I would recommend you sav...   Oct 4 2005, 09:13 AM
Joe Ricard   I put the "cow catcher front air dam on my car and...   Oct 4 2005, 10:44 AM


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