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The $5,000 Type IV?, What would it look like? |
horizontally-opposed |
Nov 29 2005, 07:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
So I can't (and won't) argue with Jake's policies or pricing. Hell, I helped publicize his acheivements and remain very impressed by them. So let's NOT DEBATE THEM here -- please take that to another thread.
In the meantime, though, I think $5,000 (carbs and ignition included?) seems a far more approachable number for a lot of people. I wouldn't expect to get anything but short-lived junk for $1,300 to $2,600 -- unless I was building it myself. So what are the possibilities at $5,000 to maybe $6,000? What kind of power, what kind of longevity? Could 120 or 130 hp be so hard to get with decent longevity? I ask it more as theory and as a business opportunity/service someone could provide the community with -- someone who is well-known as a good engine builder. The 2.0-liter (based on a 1.7) in my 1973 914 has not left the chassis since at least 1986 -- it ain't got much power, but it was obviously built right. Rather than specific answers, I am hoping to open up a direction of travel for Type IV owners on a real-world budget and (hopefully) a resource to fit that niche. Or am I alone? (running for cover) pete |
Bleyseng |
Nov 29 2005, 08:55 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
considering that a 911 has a dry sump oil system and has what 10 gal of oil, no wonder they last long.
type 4 have 4 qts of oil, a oil filter and if its changed regularly every 6k the bottom end will last nearly 200k. The heads thou usually are toast around 100k (guide wear out). 911 motors have Alsul or Nikasil cylinders which really help cooling and last 200k. Type 4's atleast 914's have decent quality pistons and cylinders that can last 150 to 200k, as I have seen it. So for around $5-6k you can get a nicely rebuild 110-120hp 2056 that will last if you start with one thats not been abused. includes rebuild 2.0l heads new P&c's machine work bearings cam & lifters misc labor (yours) free! Can you rebuild (not refresh) a 911 for that? No. I rebuilt mine in 99 for $3k and had to refresh the top end due to a ring problem after 10k of miles, for another $2k including a new cam and lifters plus pistons. I drive the piss outta it and still have the crappie Djet. |
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