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The $5,000 Type IV?, What would it look like? |
horizontally-opposed |
Nov 29 2005, 07:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
So I can't (and won't) argue with Jake's policies or pricing. Hell, I helped publicize his acheivements and remain very impressed by them. So let's NOT DEBATE THEM here -- please take that to another thread.
In the meantime, though, I think $5,000 (carbs and ignition included?) seems a far more approachable number for a lot of people. I wouldn't expect to get anything but short-lived junk for $1,300 to $2,600 -- unless I was building it myself. So what are the possibilities at $5,000 to maybe $6,000? What kind of power, what kind of longevity? Could 120 or 130 hp be so hard to get with decent longevity? I ask it more as theory and as a business opportunity/service someone could provide the community with -- someone who is well-known as a good engine builder. The 2.0-liter (based on a 1.7) in my 1973 914 has not left the chassis since at least 1986 -- it ain't got much power, but it was obviously built right. Rather than specific answers, I am hoping to open up a direction of travel for Type IV owners on a real-world budget and (hopefully) a resource to fit that niche. Or am I alone? (running for cover) pete |
ChrisFoley |
Nov 29 2005, 10:09 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,958 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
It isn't too hard to get 130hp for $6k or less, if you already own a set of carbs in decent condition and your core engine is rebuildable. That includes the labor of someone else assembling it too, but no dyno tuning.
I just built a 2056 for a club member. It isn't quite ready to go back in the car but only because of some external parts that are missing. The finished cost will be around $6K. A lot of parts were bought from the Type 4 Store, and ceramic lifters were used. My labor is well under half the total cost. D-jet FI is being used so it probably won't make 130HP. I didn't optimize the valve lift but I did get the geometry close enough to help the valve guides last. The heads were in good shape but Len Hoffman still had to do some welding. The crank was already prepped when the disassembled engine was brought to me. The rods already had the big end resized but I had to get new wrist pin bushings installed. |
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