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The $5,000 Type IV?, What would it look like? |
horizontally-opposed |
Nov 29 2005, 07:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
So I can't (and won't) argue with Jake's policies or pricing. Hell, I helped publicize his acheivements and remain very impressed by them. So let's NOT DEBATE THEM here -- please take that to another thread.
In the meantime, though, I think $5,000 (carbs and ignition included?) seems a far more approachable number for a lot of people. I wouldn't expect to get anything but short-lived junk for $1,300 to $2,600 -- unless I was building it myself. So what are the possibilities at $5,000 to maybe $6,000? What kind of power, what kind of longevity? Could 120 or 130 hp be so hard to get with decent longevity? I ask it more as theory and as a business opportunity/service someone could provide the community with -- someone who is well-known as a good engine builder. The 2.0-liter (based on a 1.7) in my 1973 914 has not left the chassis since at least 1986 -- it ain't got much power, but it was obviously built right. Rather than specific answers, I am hoping to open up a direction of travel for Type IV owners on a real-world budget and (hopefully) a resource to fit that niche. Or am I alone? (running for cover) pete |
cha914 |
Nov 29 2005, 10:25 PM
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MUSR 8 - 5lug conversion done wed - drive 500miles thrus Group: Members Posts: 739 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 63 |
Just as a data point...in Jan of 02, after throwing away ~2500 into a 2.0L that I tried to build (it ran, but never well, totally my fault, got in over my head without knowing enough) I sent a very nice core 2.0L to our favorite engine builder, and about 4-5k later I had a 2056 with new carbs that dynoed at 130hp @ 6300rpm and 131tq @ 4500rpm ...
The heads never go over 350 (stock cooling tin), and I only see that when pulling hard in 5th...I did need to add an external cooler to keep the oil temps under control, but they are managed well with a small 8x11" x 1.5"thick cooler up front. I guess I am lucky that I got in line when I did, and I am sure glad that I did, not having to worry a lick about the motor has allowed me to do suspension, brake, and interior stuff, and beat the snot out of the car at autox's and country drives. Anyway, in 02 4-5K got me 2.0L heads with welded up plugs (12mm), slight port job, new valves, HD springs, split duration web cam, KB 96mm pistons, everthing cryoed, balanced, and broken in on the dyno...I think thats about it... Tony (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) |
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