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The $5,000 Type IV?, What would it look like? |
horizontally-opposed |
Nov 29 2005, 07:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
So I can't (and won't) argue with Jake's policies or pricing. Hell, I helped publicize his acheivements and remain very impressed by them. So let's NOT DEBATE THEM here -- please take that to another thread.
In the meantime, though, I think $5,000 (carbs and ignition included?) seems a far more approachable number for a lot of people. I wouldn't expect to get anything but short-lived junk for $1,300 to $2,600 -- unless I was building it myself. So what are the possibilities at $5,000 to maybe $6,000? What kind of power, what kind of longevity? Could 120 or 130 hp be so hard to get with decent longevity? I ask it more as theory and as a business opportunity/service someone could provide the community with -- someone who is well-known as a good engine builder. The 2.0-liter (based on a 1.7) in my 1973 914 has not left the chassis since at least 1986 -- it ain't got much power, but it was obviously built right. Rather than specific answers, I am hoping to open up a direction of travel for Type IV owners on a real-world budget and (hopefully) a resource to fit that niche. Or am I alone? (running for cover) pete |
John |
Nov 29 2005, 11:21 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
Just before my current adventure (3.2 conversion in process), I had priced out rebuilding a 2.0 back to stock with FI. I was going to do all the assembly work and had shopped around for good pricing. In the end, I was estimating $5-$6k in parts and machine work.
I was going to send my heads to Len Hoffman for a total rebuild (included in my pricing), I was going to have a local machine shop do my case, connecting rods, and crank. When I added it all up, and was discussing this with my wife, she asked why not put that money toward a 3.2 conversion (my long term goal). There it was. Easy decision. The very next day, I started shopping for the 3.2...... So, in my opinion, to rebuild a STOCK 2.0 with quality components and to get a decent machine shop to align bore the case, recondition the crank and rods, it will more than likely cost between $5-$6k (not including assembly labor). I am positive that one could be slapped together for less, but one will end up with just that (one that is slapped together). I completely agree with Mr. Raby's pricing as he is trying to do this for a living. Time, experience, and quality cost money. Just my $0.02 |
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