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> 4 lug spacers, Yea, or nay
ChrisReale
post Nov 1 2003, 03:59 PM
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I have room up front to push out my wheels about one inch. Where can I get 4 lug spacers? If I played my cards better, when I got my Panasports I would have had two made with a different backspacing to allow for the more room up front, but I was not wise. Are spacers generally considered ok for this? I know I would have to have longer lug bolts, or have longer studs put in. Anything else?
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post Nov 2 2003, 12:12 PM
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I'm not pro or anti spacers, but I do believe that people should be aware that they are ALWAYS a tradeoff. So are wheels that have extra offset built in. It doesn't matter how you widen the track; only that you do! Highly skilled engineers designed the suspension geometry for a particular set of specifications. When you change the track of the vehicle you will doubtlessly increase stress to the bearings, as well as many other things. Even if bearings don't show signs of obvious wear, you are still not immune to catastrophic failure when you least need it. Anyone other than me experience this first hand?!? I'm not going to say a 1/4 inch spacer is okay and that a 1 inch spacer is not, nor will I provide any guidance other than to say less is more.

BTW, I am always amused when people point to race cars as examples of what compromises may be acceptable for street cars. Racers (including race engineers) make the most extreme compromises imaginable to shave a tenth (or less) of a second off of a lap. Anything for a fraction of a second, so long as the reward outweighs the risk. Race car engineering belongs on the track, not the street! Be conservative and stay safe.
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ChrisReale   4 lug spacers   Nov 1 2003, 03:59 PM
Joe Ricard   The farther out you put the wheel the more stress ...   Nov 1 2003, 05:49 PM
!   Spacers or adapters? Longer studs with spacers th...   Nov 1 2003, 07:48 PM
ChrisReale   basically I want to bump my front wheels out .5 in...   Nov 1 2003, 08:27 PM
URY914   I use spacers on my 4-bolt wheels. I have 1/4" in ...   Nov 1 2003, 08:43 PM
SirAndy   do it ... either way, longer lug-nutz or studs pre...   Nov 2 2003, 12:37 AM
Korijo   Spacers Chris, I got 2, 1" 4 X 100 spacers from ...   Nov 2 2003, 01:32 AM
ChrisReale   Grazie for the link Dave :trophy:   Nov 2 2003, 04:17 AM
Brad Roberts   Run the spacers. It will be fine. Turn in changes ...   Nov 2 2003, 04:20 AM
72914S   I have 1/4" spacers in the front, don`t know w...   Nov 2 2003, 06:24 AM
Blake   I'm not pro or anti spacers, but I do believe ...   Nov 2 2003, 12:12 PM
SirAndy     Nov 2 2003, 02:45 PM
ChrisReale   This aint a street car much. :muebaAX:   Nov 2 2003, 03:58 PM
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SirAndy     Nov 2 2003, 07:03 PM
Andyrew   Dont drive period, you could kill innocent people....   Nov 2 2003, 07:11 PM
SirAndy     Nov 2 2003, 07:11 PM
Andyrew   Btw, on topic, im going to run spacers in the rear...   Nov 2 2003, 07:12 PM
SirAndy     Nov 2 2003, 07:17 PM
URY914   Blake, That was much more than $.02 worth. Th...   Nov 2 2003, 08:42 PM
Aaron Cox   LOL....
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SirAndy     Nov 2 2003, 09:19 PM
Aaron Cox   i think they evan ran up to 9's on the back...   Nov 2 2003, 09:20 PM
SirAndy     Nov 2 2003, 09:26 PM
Aaron Cox   good to know :)   Nov 2 2003, 09:35 PM
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krk   Alrighty then. Do we have data? You know -- thin...   Nov 3 2003, 12:31 PM
Brad Roberts   Here is how I sell myself on wheel spacers: I own ...   Nov 3 2003, 12:48 PM
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vsg914   Quote"on the street where driving at anything over...   Nov 3 2003, 03:06 PM
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Jeroen   Ok, here's some "real world" numbers for ya......   Nov 3 2003, 03:30 PM
onrails   oh no!! :( it appears that a prior owner h...   Nov 3 2003, 03:40 PM
Jeroen   Oh, another thing... the strenght of the rear trai...   Nov 3 2003, 03:40 PM
SirAndy   the attached picture shows the 3 most important tr...   Nov 3 2003, 03:41 PM
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Jeroen   Yeah, well, unlike you, most people who hang out h...   Nov 3 2003, 04:16 PM
onrails   sorry to offend you"wise one" but this "idiot" th...   Nov 3 2003, 04:24 PM
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Brad Roberts   This is all good stuff. The problem I have with A...   Nov 3 2003, 05:16 PM
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onrails   Don't insult me! Anyone that has read the ...   Nov 3 2003, 06:02 PM
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onrails   it's ok, keep your 10$ ...   Nov 3 2003, 06:08 PM
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vsg914   No, this is not rocket science. It's fun!...   Nov 3 2003, 06:11 PM
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Jeroen   Man you are chasing your own tail... It's pret...   Nov 3 2003, 06:19 PM
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fiid   Man - I love a good flame war. It's been so l...   Nov 3 2003, 06:32 PM
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Blake   Guys, it's been fun, but obviously you are all...   Nov 3 2003, 06:59 PM
Jeroen   Well, I'm very curious how you plan to widen t...   Nov 3 2003, 07:04 PM
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SirAndy     Nov 3 2003, 07:21 PM
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SirAndy     Nov 3 2003, 07:31 PM
vsg914   oh, I thought you were referring to the length of ...   Nov 3 2003, 07:33 PM
Jeroen     Nov 3 2003, 07:55 PM
SirAndy     Nov 3 2003, 08:27 PM
!   Ah geez, I missed ALL the fun.....did we dis an id...   Nov 3 2003, 08:36 PM
Jeroen   He and Alfred should hook up They can e-mail each ...   Nov 3 2003, 08:39 PM
redshift   I like that one song, off Hocus Pocus. M   Nov 3 2003, 08:46 PM
Aaron Cox   hey guys... i think i want to run spacers. :idea:...   Nov 3 2003, 09:04 PM


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