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4 lug spacers, Yea, or nay |
ChrisReale |
Nov 1 2003, 03:59 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
I have room up front to push out my wheels about one inch. Where can I get 4 lug spacers? If I played my cards better, when I got my Panasports I would have had two made with a different backspacing to allow for the more room up front, but I was not wise. Are spacers generally considered ok for this? I know I would have to have longer lug bolts, or have longer studs put in. Anything else?
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Blake |
Nov 3 2003, 02:51 AM
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Speed Geek Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 15-October 03 From: Seattle Member No.: 1,247 |
QUOTE well, i'd rather die stupid and had some fun than safe, (unstupid?) and boring ... You, sir, have NO idea how much more fun it is to live than die. That is a shame and I hope you come to your senses soon. Seriously. I can also say I had the same sort of misguided ideas about life in my earlier years and it was dumb luck that I lived to learn better. Well, I still do dumb things but they are less, er...dumber than they used to be and my luck continues to hold. I've buried too many "exciting" friends to wish to earn that title by anything more than the sum of my accomplishments over a well-lived life of managed risks (Note: I did NOT say "no risks" and I certainly don't mean that to be interpreted as "no fun"). QUOTE call me stupid (you're not the first one and probably not the last) but i just can't see how 1/2" spacers in front of a teener amount to: " wheelchair" and "killing innocent people" Never called you stupid, dude, but your reply has me rethinking that position. I merely said that taking on risks without measuring the true consequences against the true benefits was stupid. You just seem delusional about both the risks and rewards; not stupid. Delusions are not necessarily a terminal condition. Stupidity most certainly is, as Darwin pointed out. Please go back and re-read my posts. I assure you I clearly stated my "wheelchair" and "killing innocent people" statements were exclusively intended to counter your "a boring life without risks is not worth living" (paraphrase) argument; not the wheel bearing issue. I've known people who put themselves in wheelchairs or killed innocent people completely by accident doing things many people consider "fun" and "exciting" and certainly not obvious in terms of the incredible but rare consequences that caught up to them after enough opportunities. Ironically, many of these people were quite boring in personality and had to compensate with "exciting" behavior. BTW, I have yet to understand how wheel spacers are in any way exciting. Some day, we'll have to sit down over a beer and you can 'splain that to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) My official position remains thus: changing the track increases wear and tear on critical parts of your suspension. The only people who can tell you for certain that any change is safe would be engineers doing a proper analysis. Lacking that, you are simply guessing and taking a short-odds bet which is probably very safe but never 100%. Over time, a lot of short-odds bets add up to a long-odds proposition that you just can't win, so pick your bets carefully. In other words, if you do a lot of hack-mods, one of them will bite you in the long term. I sure hope it won't be a suspension hack, as those can cost you dearly. I am not saying a 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, 5, or even 10 inch spacer will cost anyone their life, nor will any reasonable change likely even cause them more than the headache of added maintenance. But, as I said, the FACT remains that there is a slim chance of failure and that failure is potentially life threatening. A million to one, perhaps, but worth reflecting on for half a second before making the decision. Hopefully, in that reflective moment, you consider what other mods might be more effective at accomplishing your goals. Almost always, you will find more rewarding and less risky solutions that are JUST AS MUCH FUN. Try it some time. Finally, let me go on record as saying I may very well use wheel spacers/adapters in project cars in the future, should I find them advantageous in some way. That would not be a contradiction to anything I have said. I am a grown boy, just like you, and I merely make my choices with eyes wide open (unlike you, IMHO). We are, after all, talking about a very small risk (odds, not consequences). But I will say that I find the possibility of my doing so unlikely unless it is a side-effect of doing something else (e.g. necessitated by wider wheels). QUOTE whatever you're smoking, i want some, I'll trade you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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