 Out with the old...in with the new...Britain's Racecar Development, Subaru Engine, Lotus Suspension! Time to go racing! |
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| Britain Smith |
 Oct 24 2011, 11:08 AM
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Nano Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364  |
QUOTE(Hontec @ Oct 24 2011, 02:26 AM)  Very, very nice!!!!! good choice the Lotus parts, very strong and light! take a look at these; even kinky-er!! front racing hubs rear racing hubs racing wishbones you're not done pimpin" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) PS: use the S2 wheelbearings with ABS rings/sensor incorporated and use a racelogic traction control.....you will be truly amazed...... Hey Hontec, I have seen those parts....very nice and quite spendy. Maybe someday I will win the lottery and get those. Regarding the wheel sensors, I am planning on using the stock wheel sensors to integrate ABS onto the car using the Bosch 3-channel or possibly the 4-channel system. -Britain |
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| Britain Smith |
Oct 24 2011, 11:11 AM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
QUOTE(Brett W @ Oct 24 2011, 06:38 AM) So why did we pick the Lotus suspension instead of running a 928 front spindle with custom a-arms and a multilink 996/997 setup in the rear? It would all be Porsche stuff. You built the subframe, so building it using Porsche parts would have been easy. At this point it is irrelevant to use the Porsche stuff. I like the Lotus parts because they were built for a lightweight car running 16" wheels. The late model Porsche stuff is why to "beefy" for my needs and would have been significantly more expensive. -Britain |
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| horizontally-opposed |
Oct 24 2011, 12:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,445 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None 
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This is such a wild project. I dig it, and the logic behind it, Britain!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) pete |
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| Britain Smith |
Oct 26 2011, 09:13 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Thanks Pete. It is moving along quickly. I have listed all the parts I have taken off the car in the classified, lots of very good items.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=150607 -Britain |
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| sean_v8_914 |
Oct 31 2011, 08:26 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
I think its new name should be Jason. (Halloween hack and slash fest)
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| DanT |
Oct 31 2011, 08:41 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
nice work so far Brit!
looking forward to more progress reports and finally seeing it on all fours again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Hontec |
Oct 31 2011, 12:27 PM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Oct 24 2011, 07:08 PM) QUOTE(Hontec @ Oct 24 2011, 02:26 AM) Very, very nice!!!!! good choice the Lotus parts, very strong and light! take a look at these; even kinky-er!! front racing hubs rear racing hubs racing wishbones you're not done pimpin" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) PS: use the S2 wheelbearings with ABS rings/sensor incorporated and use a racelogic traction control.....you will be truly amazed...... Hey Hontec, I have seen those parts....very nice and quite spendy. Maybe someday I will win the lottery and get those. Regarding the wheel sensors, I am planning on using the stock wheel sensors to integrate ABS onto the car using the Bosch 3-channel or possibly the 4-channel system. -Britain Britain Yes they are pricey, but if you're looking for every bit of weightsaving.... Regarding the wheelsensors: take a look at the racelogic traction control system, it uses inputs from these sensors (all 4 wheels) and it will make a difference of day and night to your driving and lap times........... racelogic Randall |
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| Randal |
Nov 6 2011, 10:49 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(Hontec @ Oct 31 2011, 10:27 AM) QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Oct 24 2011, 07:08 PM) QUOTE(Hontec @ Oct 24 2011, 02:26 AM) Very, very nice!!!!! good choice the Lotus parts, very strong and light! take a look at these; even kinky-er!! front racing hubs rear racing hubs racing wishbones you're not done pimpin" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) PS: use the S2 wheelbearings with ABS rings/sensor incorporated and use a racelogic traction control.....you will be truly amazed...... Hey Hontec, I have seen those parts....very nice and quite spendy. Maybe someday I will win the lottery and get those. Regarding the wheel sensors, I am planning on using the stock wheel sensors to integrate ABS onto the car using the Bosch 3-channel or possibly the 4-channel system. -Britain Britain Yes they are pricey, but if you're looking for every bit of weightsaving.... Regarding the wheelsensors: take a look at the racelogic traction control system, it uses inputs from these sensors (all 4 wheels) and it will make a difference of day and night to your driving and lap times........... racelogic Randall Hey Randall - does the racelogic work as an ABS system as well as wheel spin? How is that project of your coming? |
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| Hontec |
Nov 6 2011, 12:36 PM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(Randal @ Nov 6 2011, 06:49 PM) QUOTE(Hontec @ Oct 31 2011, 10:27 AM) QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Oct 24 2011, 07:08 PM) QUOTE(Hontec @ Oct 24 2011, 02:26 AM) Very, very nice!!!!! good choice the Lotus parts, very strong and light! take a look at these; even kinky-er!! front racing hubs rear racing hubs racing wishbones you're not done pimpin" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) PS: use the S2 wheelbearings with ABS rings/sensor incorporated and use a racelogic traction control.....you will be truly amazed...... Hey Hontec, I have seen those parts....very nice and quite spendy. Maybe someday I will win the lottery and get those. Regarding the wheel sensors, I am planning on using the stock wheel sensors to integrate ABS onto the car using the Bosch 3-channel or possibly the 4-channel system. -Britain Britain Yes they are pricey, but if you're looking for every bit of weightsaving.... Regarding the wheelsensors: take a look at the racelogic traction control system, it uses inputs from these sensors (all 4 wheels) and it will make a difference of day and night to your driving and lap times........... racelogic Randall Hey Randall - does the racelogic work as an ABS system as well as wheel spin? How is that project of your coming? The Racelogic system is purely traction Control. ABS is for people that lack anticipation! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) My project was put on hold the last few weeks since I had to put some work into my Honda S2000, hadn't driven it for a year and it needed some love. Almost done and then back to the 914 |
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| 914_1.8t |
Nov 6 2011, 02:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 302 Joined: 3-June 04 From: East Bay Member No.: 2,149 |
Awesome project! Can't wait to see the finished result.
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| URY914 |
Nov 6 2011, 02:52 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,936 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Looks heavy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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| Britain Smith |
Nov 6 2011, 03:07 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
What we added is less than what we took out. Plus, I need more weight in the front of the car.
-Britain |
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| SirAndy |
Nov 23 2011, 02:41 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
So, you really think this is gonna make you drive faster? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| Britain Smith |
Dec 7 2011, 12:09 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Ok guys, sorry for the slight delay in posting updates. I ended up breaking my nose playing basketball and had to get surgery to get it fixed which forced my to cancel one of my trips down to Cali to work on the car. I did however make it down there this past weekend and made good progress.
This first bit of work that I had completed before making the trip down was the inboard shock rocker assemblies. I had the plates waterjet cut and the bearing carriers machined locally. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323281357.1.jpg) Here are the rockers in place on the car. Still need to complete the pushrod to the control arm and get the shocks that I plan to run. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323281357.2.jpg) Here is the front suspension rockers viewed from inside the fender wells. I also cleaned up the sheet metal cutouts and made clearance for the steering rack where it passes thru. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323281357.3.jpg) Front fender well with the front suspension jig in place. I mounted this back in place to get the wheelbase measurements to the rear suspension. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323281358.4.jpg) Speaking of the steering rack, the steering shaft is completed. Had to interface between the Lotus splines and the Porsche splines. Both shafts where machined the same diameter and a metal sleeve was made and welded in-between. I had to section the sheetmetal to allow the steering shaft to pass thru when the steering rack is at the upper mounting location. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323281358.5.jpg) |
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| Britain Smith |
Dec 7 2011, 12:27 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Now on to the rear suspension.
First up was to cut the front half of the trunk floor and shock towers out. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323282458.1.jpg) Next we cut out the old trailing arm suspension ears. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323282458.2.jpg) After lots and lots of grinding, this is what we ended up with...lots of space to work with. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323282458.3.jpg) To start, we constructed a jig that runs the entire length of the car and reference the mounting locations for the rear suspension to the front suspension. This allows us to put everything in alignment front and rear and side to side. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323282458.4.jpg) Side view of the location of the rear suspension in reference to the transmission. The custom axles are going to be around 23" long and require a custom outer stub-axle to be machined. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net-364-1323282458.5.jpg) Here you can see the jig running from the front suspension to the rear. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323282459.6.jpg) The rear sub-frame will be attached to the car in 6 locations and will hold the complete rear suspension as well as the engine and transmission. This is the lower bar going into place. You can see in the foreground the bung that was welded into the chassis. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323282460.7.jpg) This is Teddy, the owner and machinist at Mavrik Motorsports, the shop where I am constructing this contraption. He is notching the tubing for the rear sub-frame. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323282460.8.jpg) Lower sub-frame bar going into place. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-364-1323282460.9.jpg) I will be back down there this coming Sat. and the plan is to complete the rear sub-frame and start working on the new cage. -Britain |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Dec 7 2011, 12:46 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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That's a lot of fab work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I hope it all pays off. Looks like very nice work Britain. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| Andyrew |
Dec 7 2011, 11:12 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Wowsers.
To damn cool. |
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| PlaysWithCars |
Dec 9 2011, 12:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 9-November 03 From: Southeast of Seattle Member No.: 1,323 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Completely over the top. I bet J.P. had no idea what was in store for his baby when he sold it. (I bet you didn't either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )
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| Britain Smith |
Dec 9 2011, 12:18 AM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Yea, it is an adventure with no end in sight. I talk with JP all the time...we both knew this was coming eventually.
-Britain |
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| oldschool |
Dec 9 2011, 02:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,372 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Dec 8 2011, 10:18 PM) Yea, it is an adventure with no end in sight. I talk with JP all the time...we both knew this was coming eventually. -Britain Very cool man, yeah I know the shop Ted is way cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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