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newdeal2
post Jun 21 2004, 01:57 PM
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Does anyone know of a standard engine stand [that can be rented?] that will hold the type 4 engine? I know Jake removes the flywheel in his video but doesn't explain how it is all set up. My only other option is to work on the floor and the bench.

I removed the engine yesterday and seperated the tranny last night. I am going to remove the FI, etc. tonight and start the tin removal.

Thanks to Pelican for the great engine removal article in the Tech section...it really works

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post Jun 21 2004, 02:11 PM
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jc whitney has a bench mounted stand for less that $30. thats what I got.

I've seen a rolling stand adapted to it for about another $75.

Not sure renting one is worth it or even possible.

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post Jun 21 2004, 02:20 PM
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Go to your local VW bug shop, they'll have one.

The cheap ones are a bit light for a fully dressed T4 but as long as it's bolted down proper your OK.
You might want to use a prop stick, to hold up the nose on dressed engine, if you’re leaving it for any length of time.
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post Jun 21 2004, 02:56 PM
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see stick under motor, and bench and other wood.

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post Jun 21 2004, 03:58 PM
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I've got that same stand mounted on an extremely strong/stiff bench. On the bottom of the base I ran 24" of 3/16" angle iron on either side. Do you Dave & Mark think I'll still need the prop stick? I guess I mean, is the stand itself gonna fail?
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post Jun 21 2004, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(seanery @ Jun 21 2004, 05:58 PM)
I've got that same stand mounted on an extremely strong/stiff bench. On the bottom of the base I ran 24" of 3/16" angle iron on either side. Do you Dave & Mark think I'll still need the prop stick? I guess I mean, is the stand itself gonna fail?

with a short block, i didn't worry so much. but with a dressed fully built motor, it looks dicey.

no matter how well the mounting plate is attached, the whole damn thing just flexes.

It probably is fine but I always put the 2x4 there. When the car was fully in the garage, the motor actually cantillevered out over the bumper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Jun 21 2004, 05:05 PM
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Sean, I've never had a problem, although a fully dressed bus engine with heaterboxes and exhaust starts to look like a bit much. In my shop they never stay on the stand very long anyways.

I don't know how heavy your stand is, buy the farther out you get the weight multiplies. Once you have a finished engine, if you're leaving it on the stand, a prop stick is cheap insurance. It should be fine while you're working on the engine, as long as the stand (and bench) is properly bolted down.

An average week at my shop, 2 finished engines and 3 blocks waiting to be started. I need a maid!


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post Jun 21 2004, 05:09 PM
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the bench won't go anywhere and the stand is mounted securely.
The bench is triangulated into the garage wall, the wall is so stiff now and I can jump up and down on the bench and it doesn't flex at all. I'm 210 lbs at the moment.

I'll keep a stick nearby when the motor goes up.
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post Jun 21 2004, 08:02 PM
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I built a stand with casters for my engine stand.


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The frame is made from "Unistruct". I use it at work to hang/mount equipment above the ceiling, like surgery lights, monitors, etc. You can get it at electrical supply houses or Home Depot as it also. Stuff goes together like Tinkertoys.


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post Jun 21 2004, 08:06 PM
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Last pic wasn't too good.

I put steel casters from the local wholesale tool store. It's nice to be able to roll it around.


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Sorry the pics really suck.

But the stand looks great in person. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jun 22 2004, 07:11 AM
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EMPI has a engine stand that mounts to the table for about $15. It looks to be the same as URY914's. It allows the presence of the flywheel. Alternative is to use the bell housing of a transmisision.
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post Jun 22 2004, 08:25 AM
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All of those pictured look to be the Empi stand.
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