My v8 conversion thread, With pics, progress, questions ect!! Options

[soloracer]

So what is the verdict here? Did you ever solve the "car gots no power under full throttle" problem?

[914GT]

Dan

I've been using the same alternator you have with no problems. One spade terminal back to near the battery, the other to the original dash alternator light.

[soloracer]

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[Mr.C]

So what is the verdict here? Did you ever solve the "car gots no power under full throttle" problem?

I was wondering the same thing.

[Andyrew]

Well, verdict eh?

I g teched it a while ago at 160 RW hp.. So figure about 200hp... Kinda lowly for a 350... lol
Its got a bunch of tq at 2500 and everywhere.. Ie is so responsive its almost undrivable.. (lol)

But it just dies at 4000rmps or so... (match of timing, intake, and exhaust is my guess...)

I havent driven it in a week because somethings loose in the rear suspension, and I havent had any time to get to it.

I am now looking for corvette TPI to put on around christmas. (I'll buy it when money comes my way..lol)

Soooo..

Verdict. The full throttle thing... Well Its alright, when the secondary's kick in, ya, you can feel/hear it. but its not correct AFR...
Its fast, but only about 160hp fast.
very dissapointing. (im used to a 944 turbo race car... and knowing that my car should blow the socks off the turbo, it feels slow in comparison. I am NOT happy)
With everything I curretly have to bolt on, I want 250 rear hp. I just need some time to do it!!!



I'd guess 0-60 is about 6 seconds. Less if I launched it.

Andrew

Yup, its slow.

[dan10101]

The answer to the question is... we're not sure. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

We found an ignition problem that was repaired by running a new 12v feed wire to the HEI. Also removed the unnecessary Cat that was partially plugged (73 model year). That and a bit of tuning made the bad problems go away. Now it's probably a mismatch of components that is hurting the power output. His estimate of power is pretty close, but realise that it's easly double what he had before. So, if that is all it ever becomes, it's enough for me even if it's not enough for him.

Driving wise. It's not easy to loose the tires, but power and thrust are there. Full throttle give a nice roar from the carb. Exhaust is a bit quite, so that will be one of the next items on his list. It's still not allowing us to turn the idle down below 1000 rpms. That bothers me. But it is a pretty ratical cam, so it could be part of the problem.

He did get the window fixed, did a nice job on it and fixed the door handle sticking while he was in there. So now it will seal up against the weather. (except for the front radiator storage...)

Still alot of work to do, but we're now in full garage update mode so things will get put on hold for a bit. We're adding a 1.75 car garage onto our existing 2 car... At least now I can get my cars out of the weather before they deteriorate.

[cffd]

Wow!!!!!!!!!......... very nice and well done!! it sounds great!!.. I would like to know how the drivers faces of the rice burners, etc looked like after you put a nice smack down to there suprise. Eric 73-stock 914

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[shoguneagle]

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) I have been gone a while and recently read the entire thread again. What is the latest on this project? Seems to have reached a "stall".

What is the "happ's", gang?

Thought I would say "Hi", and get an update on the project.

Steve Hurt
shoguneagle

[Dr. Roger]

yea' andy, what's up with that injection sytem??? it was sounding pretty good there last month... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[dan10101]

I'll reply, since he's doing homework, er well, he should be, if he'll ever get off the phone with his girlfriend.

No big changes since the v8 meet. Plans seem to go whichever the wind is blowing. Current talk is a total overhaul. Pull the engine, repaint the engine compartment, finish the body work, possibly pull the engine apart to check a 'funny' noise.
Excessive work is kinda on hold due to some major work on my cars that may limit running cars.

The good news is that the garage is done. Now I can finish my engine swap on the track 951 and another job that reared it's ugly head. A chiped tooth on the flywheel on the stock 951. This has been his school car and my occasional work car. So, we have some major repairs ahead. The 4 car garage will come in real handy.

Here's a pict of the finished produce. We'll get some interior shots one of these days.

[Andyrew]

I thought I heard a rod nock the other day... or a bearing...

Anyways, I havent heard anything, I think I just had the idle to low..

I bumped up the idle and it seems to be running just fine.

Im playing with dizzy timing, I've done a little playing around and im very certain that with an electronic dizzy I can get the power delivery perfectly linear (with heads that will flow it..)

I have had no cooling problems, and I dont see over 190 anywhere in the streets. I have some air flow issues that I will be resolving soon when I approach the body work, which is giving me a higher than liked temp durring long travel on the freeway.

Programable fuel injection has given me much more opportunities, that I can not utilize myself. I will need to be putting this engine on a dyno to tune it properly.

Unfortunatly, I will be tearing down the engine before this to inspect and make sure nothing is wrong with the oil pump or rods or bearings or the like.

I will be installing an oil cooler that takes the place of the fresh air ducting by the windshield and running a fan with hoses to the dash vents. This will be my heater fix and should work nicely.

I need to start working on the body work, ie putting on HPH flares via dzuts fasteners, and working on the hood vent ala gt 40 style.

Car will be factory phoenix red, and the wheels I do believe will be black chrome.

I will be semi tube framing the car and I have an engman long kit as well.

Soon the car will be running Goodyear slicks and hopefully I will be able to get it to 2000lbs.

As far as time? I want the car painted by WCC 06. Taking a class right now.

Whew... Thats life in a bottle!!! for the car...


Be sure to check out my pics and my video's!!! The links are in my sig

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[Andyrew]

Heres some pics from the recent autox..

THe one from the video.. (with the girl screaming..)

[Andyrew]

last.. night all

[soloracer]

Dan,

What wheels are on your 951? They look similar to the ones on my car.

Andyrew,

That's quite a list you have. I just finished a turbo upgrade on the 951 that took me all winter (dyno'd 303 rwhp / 289 ft-lbs untuned @ 15 psi - pump gas). Guess I work too slow. With a list like yours I would be years away from getting done. Makes me wonder if I'll ever get finished with my teener. Keep posting updates on your thread - it gives me incentive to keep going with my car.

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[jimkelly]

How much rear sway is ideal - maybe a rear sway bar is in order??

Jim

[Andyrew]

Sway is not the problem, but understeer.

I have a rear stock sway bar (suposedly they increase the spring rate ~40 lbs)
I just have plans on making custom mounts, and droplinks...

The wheels on his stock car are DP wheels from japan or something. They look nice, and are not to heavy. Recently referbushed...
The pic that i have is big... so heres a link to the pic.
http://members.rennlist.com/dan10101/image...05/PA290028.JPG

Andrew

[RobPattillo]

Lifter w/o cleaning, Look at the wear, Can I still use these?

It is always a good thing to replace the lifters. They aren't that expensive and will releive alot of worry in the end.

[Dr. Roger]

Hey Andy,

Any updates on your ride? I haven't heard from you in a while. =-)

Roger

[shoguneagle]

I got to wondering what Andyrew was doing with his car project after 2005 and thought I would bring the thread into current view. Andy, if you are still involved, can you give an update?? Send me an email if you have time since I will be in the Modesto area in the first part of May. Hope you are still working on the car as a hobby.

Steve Hurt
Shoguneagle

[computers4kids]

Andrew, it was great to finally meet you in person at the WCR2010 and talk more about your car. Thanks to Andy's new "Restoration" thread I saw yours and decided to read. Between it and the "hotrodder" thread, it was quite a read and journey you've been on with your car.

One of the things that poked at me was the value of using "manifold" vacumm over ported carb vacumm. I know my car has both ports for above and below the throttle plates. I suppose that below the plates would be equivalent to the "manifold" vacumm.

Still want to see your car in person! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)