Tuna Can Installation, Need Info ... Options

[markb]

Cool. Glad you located it. You could mail it in a padded envelope and save a few $ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Thanks Mark (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Went out USPS small flat rate box today.

[euro911]

Cool, the errant piece is on it's way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) Thanks for all the replies and tips (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I've installed larger (full size) sumps on T-1s and and a 912, but kind of remember the extension pick-up tubes just being a rubber hose and a hose clamp dropping down into the strainer. Of course, this was 30+ years ago (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ... the T-4 can is a new one on me ...

I can get paper seals and crush washers from numerous places, but does anyone know the particulars on the O-ring: maybe a part # from Grainger or some other source?

Since it's constantly immersed internally, does it need to be a special rubber compound to handle the high oil temperatures?

EDIT (8/31): Received it, Mark. Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

[jonesy]

Hi All,

Hope you had a great Christmas and i wish you all a happy new year.

Thanks to all of you who have bought a tuna can and/or taco plate from me.

Heres some info in the next posts on my billet parts for those that don't know about them already.

All the best.

Cheers,
Neil

[jonesy]

Tuna Can - Mini Deep Oil Sump kit

Mini Deep Oil Sump extension for volkswagen aircooled type 4 engines.

£45

Increase your engines oil capacity to help prevent oil starvation.

Fits all type IV (4) engines including Type 2 (T2) bay windows 72-79, Type 25 (T3) Transporter / Vanagon 80-83, Porsche 914s and of course VW Type 4's (Tunacan)

Precision Machined high-strength aluminium.

Complete with fitting hardware and oil pick up extension tube.

Check out more pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=978326

Worldwide shipping no problem. UK £4, Europe £6, Worldwide £8.

Paypal accepted (no extra charges) to boatyardbuses@aol.com

I also make a oil sender (taco plate) see here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=978324

I'm more than happy to offer a group buy and can offer a very good deal on multiple purchases.

Cheers,
Neil

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[jonesy]

Taco plate - Oil temp sender sump cover

Type 4 sump plate for mounting VDO oil temperature sender (M14 x 1.5mm thread)

£32

Fits all type IV (4) engines including Type 2 (T2) bay windows 72-79, Type 25 (T3) Transporter / Vanagon 80-83, Porsche 914s and of course VW Type 4's (Tunacan)

Precision Machined high-strength aluminium.

Complete with fitting hardware.

Check out more pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=978324

Worldwide shipping no problem. UK £4, Europe £6, Worldwide £8.

Paypal accepted (no extra charges) to boatyardbuses@aol.com

I also make a sump extention (tuna can) see here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=978326

I'm more than happy to offer a group buy and can offer a very good deal on multiple purchases.

Cheers,
Neil

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[ThePaintedMan]

Taco plate - Oil temp sender sump cover

Type 4 sump plate for mounting VDO oil temperature sender (M14 x 1.5mm thread)

£32

Fits all type IV (4) engines including Type 2 (T2) bay windows 72-79, Type 25 (T3) Transporter / Vanagon 80-83, Porsche 914s and of course VW Type 4's (Tunacan)

Precision Machined high-strength aluminium.

Complete with fitting hardware.


Worldwide shipping no problem. UK £4, Europe £6, Worldwide £8.

Paypal accepted (no extra charges) to boatyardbuses@aol.com

I also make a sump extention (tuna can) see here;

I'm more than happy to offer a group buy and can offer a very good deal on multiple purchases.

Cheers,
Neil

I bought both of these from Neil some time back, and I can vouch for the fine craftsmanship of both pieces. Very easy to install, and I have never seen the oil light go on. You will noticed the billet "taco plate" is even recessed so that air flowing under the car does not skew the readings from the sender. He shipped both extremely quickly and for a nominal fee - I definitely recommend you all do business with him.

[jim_hoyland]

Nice parts; I'd like to get in on a group buy.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[KaptKaos]

I was meaning to set up a group buy, but life got in the way.

Can someone run with this?

[last337]

I am trying to figure out what the purpose of this is other than adding a little more oil capacity. Is that all this does? How much more does it add?

[Chris Pincetich]

Purpose of tuna can: provide reliable "input" for oil suction (lowest point on engine) when racing or other instances that extreme g-forces cause oil to gather on one side or the other which can result in catastrophic "oil starvation."

NOTE on INSTALL: some of them, mine included, had a pick-up tube that was a hair too long. Install it loosely, and see if it seals at the top. I grinded the tube to make it shorter for the perfect fit. This is mentioned on older posts about the tuna-can, so I am adding it here. If you over-tighten to improve the seal, and the too-long tube prevents a good seal, it will destroy your engine case (as previously alluded to).
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PS - that billet version using the OEM cover is awesome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[gothspeed]

Nice parts; I'd like to get in on a group buy.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

+1 ... on the group buy for both taco and tuna ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[0396]

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Nice parts; I'd like to get in on a group buy.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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+1 ... on the group buy for both taco and tuna ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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If a group buy materialize, count me in for a tuna can.

Thanks

[Dave_Darling]

It adds something on the order of a half quart of capacity. A microscopic amount of cooling, also.

But as Chris alluded to, the main thing is to keep an oil supply to the pickup tube. Since the stock pickup is in the middle of the sump, and the sump is quite flat, it is not that hard for oil to slosh away from the pickup. If it sucks air in, you lose oil pressure. This can be quite hazardous to your bearings, among other things. The "tuna can" also includes an extension to the pickup, and it traps some oil around that. So you keep oil pressure a bit longer when undergoing higher lateral G forces.

I found that one sweeper could turn my oil light on before the 'can. After, it took four on-and-off-ramps in a row before the light came on. With hard-compound street tires, but slightly aggressive ones, and a stock suspension.

Yes, I tested it.

--DD

[gothspeed]

Does the siphon tube extension on this kit have a 'seal' of some sort (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ?? it looks like it rests on top of the screen.

Anyone else on a group buy?

[bperry]

Here is a photo of a new/un-installed Weltmeister "tuna-can" kit with
the original instructions.

--- bill

Instructions:  TunaCan.pdf ( 66.06k ) Number of downloads: 252

Instructions: (jpeg)

[euro911]

Does the siphon tube extension on this kit have a 'seal' of some sort (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ?? it looks like it rests on top of the screen.

Anyone else on a group buy?

Let's use the other thread to get a count for a GB

CLICK HERE

[gothspeed]

Here is a photo of a new/un-installed Weltmeister "tuna-can" kit with
the original instructions.

--- bill

.... that seal looks good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ........... I have seen other sump extensions use a hose clamp to hold it on .......... if this billet version has a seal at all, it will be the best 'can' out there because the screen is still utilized.

Does the siphon tube extension on this kit have a 'seal' of some sort (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ?? it looks like it rests on top of the screen.

Anyone else on a group buy?

Let's use the other thread to get a count for a GB

CLICK HERE

Sounds good ........ we are almost at the 5 mark for each piece ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[euro911]

Here is a photo of a new/un-installed Weltmeister "tuna-can" kit with
the original instructions.

--- bill

.... that seal looks good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ........... I have seen other sump extensions use a hose clamp to hold it on .......... if this billet version has a seal at all, it will be the best 'can' out there because the screen is still utilized.

Does the siphon tube extension on this kit have a 'seal' of some sort (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ?? it looks like it rests on top of the screen.

Anyone else on a group buy?

Let's use the other thread to get a count for a GB

CLICK HERE

Sounds good ........ we are almost at the 5 mark for each piece ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The sumps I used to run on T-1s and 356/912 motors used an extension 'tube' (hose) held on to the pick up tube with a hose clamp.

I think KaptKaos is in for a taco plate, not sure about a tuna can.

Where in So Cal are you, 'Goth'?

[gothspeed]

Looks like we need one more buyer for a 'taco', then we get to the 5-9 price bracket for both .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

euro911, I am on the coast of where LA/OC border .......... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

This tuna & taco upgrade will give me an excuse to fix the tiny leak that has developed on my fresh 2056 ....... the motor has not even been put into the car ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)

[euro911]

Was just curious about how many could be shipped to a centralized So Cal (LA or OC) location.


EDIT:

A 2056 is much more fun when it's in a car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)