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SCAM ALERT, offers parts you post WTB - Logan Eric Hardy et al |
larryM |
Feb 27 2014, 09:33 PM
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emoze Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 1-January 03 From: mid- California Member No.: 65 Region Association: Northern California |
BEWARE - there is a guy using g-mail pseudonym Logan Hardy aka Eric Hardy aka ??? - <bighlogan77 at gmail> - with Kansas City address who surfing this forum for WTB ads and offering to sell you the parts - has enuf smarts to know various makes parts and how to make it seem like he is genuine & actually does have the parts to sell - even sends photos - uses "wife Karen" as money recipient
yes- i got bit this past week on a WTB camshaft post I should'a known better -but i was really desperate to get that part (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) the gmail address is likely a burner google the name(s) & you will see it on several makes boards |
euro911 |
Feb 27 2014, 10:23 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,855 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Did you use paypal? If so, open a case against him.
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Feb 27 2014, 11:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
I don't know if this guy has any affiliation with your guy, but I am wary of him.
He responded, through my personal email, to two of my WTB's. This is what made me wary: 1. He did not respond through the forum 2. His price was out of line with the forum, too high 3. Asked me to pay by Moneygram or W.U. 4. Said he had the parts, but could not upload the pictures 5. I was looking for 914 tools, but what he had were not 914 tools at all (wrong tools) 6. He made it a point to sign his email with "USA" under his name 7. His grammar was sorely lacking for someone from the US 8. His name is Anderson, but it is misspelled in his email address John Anderson andersnautoshop@gmail.com I hope I'm not misjudging someone, but I've been burned before. |
mepstein |
Feb 27 2014, 11:34 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I got an email from him as well.
Hint - If they ask for western union or moneygram because their paypal is "down" it's a scam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) I asked him to send a picture in his hand of the part requested. No response - no surprise. |
bulitt |
Feb 28 2014, 06:55 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
What is his member name?
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brant |
Feb 28 2014, 07:41 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
This has to be the same guy that was on pelican
The name and gmail changes weekly. But the consistencies were. Money gram. Personal email through the site and not personal messages or posting on the add Last month he ripped me off for 200. I had a police case open in Arkansas and a female in Arkansas did pick up the money |
tweet |
Feb 28 2014, 08:35 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
This has to be the same guy that was on pelican The name and gmail changes weekly. But the consistencies were. Money gram. Personal email through the site and not personal messages or posting on the add Last month he ripped me off for 200. I had a police case open in Arkansas and a female in Arkansas did pick up the money If the guy always uses gmail, you may be able to get gmail to help. Try to get as many of his fake names and gmail addresses from the forum members. One thing he can't change is his IP address. That can be traced back to a single source. maybe the gmail people can investigate as well. Their IT department can trace this back to a single source. |
brant |
Feb 28 2014, 10:11 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
He went by nick in AK
and also as a UK address I didn't pursue Gmail... didn't know where to start I think its safe to say this guy actually does know something about porsche parts and he was taking photo's of old adds from a couple of years earlier to show as photo's of his "current" parts for sale he was scamming on. here are 2 of the dozens of threads on pelican about this guy: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...wanted-ads.html http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...s-know-guy.html |
sfrenck |
Feb 28 2014, 11:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-February 10 From: Wilmington, DE Member No.: 11,411 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Guy tried to do that to me on a Pelican WTB ad - he even emailed me a pic of the wheels I was looking for and tried to pawn them off as one's in his possession. When I asked for close-up pictures, his camera was suddenly broken....
Couple weeks later, I saw the pic he had sent when I trying to find some wheels via google. Buyer Always Beware |
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Feb 28 2014, 11:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
He went by nick in AK and also as a UK address I didn't pursue Gmail... didn't know where to start I think its safe to say this guy actually does know something about porsche parts and he was taking photo's of old adds from a couple of years earlier to show as photo's of his "current" parts for sale he was scamming on. here are 2 of the dozens of threads on pelican about this guy: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...wanted-ads.html http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...s-know-guy.html You would have to call Google and explain the circumstances. He is using Google to commit fraud. Tell them that they are exposing themselves to potential lawsuits. Google can shut him down, if they want to. |
brant |
Feb 28 2014, 11:56 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I would imagine that the reason the asshat isn't using PM or posting on threads is to hide his IP address from the admins...
is there anyway that an admin can use his log in? to search out the IP or if he is looking at ads without logging on that is hidden? brant |
tweet |
Feb 28 2014, 12:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
I would imagine that the reason the asshat isn't using PM or posting on threads is to hide his IP address from the admins... is there anyway that an admin can use his log in? to search out the IP or if he is looking at ads without logging on that is hidden? brant That is a good question for the admins. He is obviously on the forums, or else he would not have access to the WTB's. |
1TRICK6 |
Feb 28 2014, 12:35 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 13-July 11 From: Southern California Member No.: 13,313 Region Association: Southern California |
This has to be the same guy that was on pelican The name and gmail changes weekly. But the consistencies were. Money gram. Personal email through the site and not personal messages or posting on the add Last month he ripped me off for 200. I had a police case open in Arkansas and a female in Arkansas did pick up the money If the guy always uses gmail, you may be able to get gmail to help. Try to get as many of his fake names and gmail addresses from the forum members. One thing he can't change is his IP address. That can be traced back to a single source. maybe the gmail people can investigate as well. Their IT department can trace this back to a single source. Smart crooks that are a little more savvy are using free Wi-Fi from outside parking lots of hotels, restaurants, Starbucks, etc, to do their online thievery. IP addresses will return to these business and not the culprit. Hope he's a stupid crook and using his home internet service. |
PanelBilly |
Feb 28 2014, 08:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,840 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I was embarrassed this week to question someone who had a low post count and wanted to sell me a part I needed. Sucks to wonder about folks, but on the other hand its a scary world out there.
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mepstein |
Feb 28 2014, 08:41 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
This has to be the same guy that was on pelican The name and gmail changes weekly. But the consistencies were. Money gram. Personal email through the site and not personal messages or posting on the add Last month he ripped me off for 200. I had a police case open in Arkansas and a female in Arkansas did pick up the money Brant - How did you pay him? |
tweet |
Mar 1 2014, 03:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
Okay, so the guy sent me another email with a picture of tools. Guess what, they are not 914 tools either. He is obviously guessing at what the parts may be. So I asked him what his forum name was. This is his response:
Dan, I am not a memeber of the 914world forum as i am a visitor and just saw your ads and decided contacting you. Let me know and get back to me with your complete shipping address. Thanks So yes, he is admitting to trolling the classified threads, looking for suckers to hand over cold hard cash via money transfers. He's gonna be waiting a long time for that shipping address. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif) |
euro911 |
Mar 2 2014, 01:03 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,855 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
I thought you had to be a member to view the classifieds (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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mepstein |
Mar 2 2014, 05:05 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Okay, so the guy sent me another email with a picture of tools. Guess what, they are not 914 tools either. He is obviously guessing at what the parts may be. So I asked him what his forum name was. This is his response: Dan, I am not a memeber of the 914world forum as i am a visitor and just saw your ads and decided contacting you. Let me know and get back to me with your complete shipping address. Thanks So yes, he is admitting to trolling the classified threads, looking for suckers to hand over cold hard cash via money transfers. He's gonna be waiting a long time for that shipping address. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif) tell him to rot..... |
bulitt |
Mar 2 2014, 12:04 PM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
You don't need to be a member to view the classifieds. However you do need to be a member to open another members profile and either send a PM or an EMail.
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Amphicar770 |
Mar 2 2014, 12:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,205 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
In dealing with unknown sellers, I have found it useful to leverage known members of whatever forums you frequent.
I recently needed to purchase an expensive part for my amphicar. The seller claimed to be in xyz city. I simply asked if any forum members in or near that city would be willing to act as the middleman to pay the seller and pick up the parts. I had several volunteers. If the seller is a fraud and you tell him you will pick up and pay cash, they will either vanish or start concocting crazy stories. Mike |
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