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> 914 Cup Proposed Rules and Classes! now is the, time to make suggestions&modifications!
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post Jan 25 2005, 08:37 PM
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Here's what I'm waiting for:

If I get beat by a FOUR it's gonna be, " Ha-ha, FOUR beats SIX! "

When I spank the FOURS silly, (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif) it'll be " What'd ya expaect, ya got a SIX?"

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Hmmmm.....

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post Jan 25 2005, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (nebreitling @ Jan 25 2005, 07:17 PM)
yeah--but what color was the 914?



aaron: do it. i'd love to beat you.

send me a header and decklids. ill run circles around you with my stock displacement (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

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post Jan 25 2005, 10:34 PM
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First of all, I'm in! Are the tire points per tire or per axle? What if you have 255's on the front and 275's on the rear? How would you point that out?


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post Jan 25 2005, 11:05 PM
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+70 points....

At least thats how I did mine.

Is that correct???

Ie....


I second the above question.
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post Jan 25 2005, 11:17 PM
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yup, +70 points. sorry.

i think i clarified that in the rules, but i'll double check.

class your tires according to your largest tire size (i.e., the rears).


aaron, don't have decklids, but i'm thinking about it. have to do as much as possible to even out the playing field between trekkor and i! i'll be running a basic carbed 2.0 /4. don't worry, losing hurts the most the first time.

and trekkor: i'll be sure to tape my faster time slips all over your car as i'm beating you. i think you'll be taking your time around the course, trying to just enjoy the sound of that sweet, heavy /6.
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post Jan 25 2005, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (nebreitling @ Jan 25 2005, 10:17 PM)
yup, +70 points. sorry.

i think i clarified that in the rules, but i'll double check.

class your tires according to your largest tire size (i.e., the rears).


aaron, don't have decklids, but i'm thinking about it. have to do as much as possible to even out the playing field between trekkor and i! i'll be running a basic carbed 2.0 /4. don't worry, losing hurts the most the first time.

and trekkor: i'll be sure to tape my faster time slips all over your car as i'm beating you. i think you'll be taking your time around the course, trying to just enjoy the sound of that sweet, heavy /6.

dude..... can you say cocky? no worries.... maybe we should put some money on this? but none of this damn handicap (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 26 2005, 12:16 AM
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talkin' shit is half the fun dood (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)


i'm down for a friendly wager: you can bet 90cents to my dollar on PAX results, but your points are still handicapped per event per rules since you run w/ such a small group.

i'm up for anything to motivate me to be faster.
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post Jan 26 2005, 12:26 AM
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Nathan, I'm thinking we find a way for you to ride along with me. Thattaway, when I get the hot lap, you can hold my time slip 'til we get back to the paddock.

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post Jan 26 2005, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 25 2005, 10:26 PM)
Nathan, I'm thinking we find a way for you to ride along with me. Thattaway, when I get the hot lap, you can hold my time slip 'til we get back to the paddock.

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ouch -- that's a good one, trekkor (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif)
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post Jan 26 2005, 12:48 AM
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so, is MOD cutoff at 400 pts?

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post Jan 26 2005, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Jan 25 2005, 07:15 PM)
One little note on the car vs driver issue. At our final PCA event last fall a gentleman with more than a little experience from another region showed up with a very nice YELLOW GT3. He finished behind a fuel injected '73 2.0 914 with Hoosiers and Konis.

Also, this is 914 vs 914...

weight makes a big difference.
and don't -4 cars usually beat heavy -6 cars in autox?
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post Jan 26 2005, 09:29 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the points are to class your car only. Not for any handicapping, correct? Once I've got enough points to be in super mod, it doesn't really matter where in the class I am. I could have 900 points but it won't matter when it comes to scoring.

(forgive me if this has been asked before, but this fricking thing is 10 pages long! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) )

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post Jan 26 2005, 09:39 AM
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You are somewhat correct sir.

Points are mostly for classing. However, there are some things that have been thrown into the mix that are also being used to create some type of handicapping (field size).

I agree. Class is class. Once you hit the minimum requirement of points for Super Modified, it doesn't matter how many you have.
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OK, let's see if this works.

I threw together a quick spreadsheet with what I think are the current rules for determining classification of cars. It should be pretty simple to use. I also built it so that it is very simple to update as the rules may change as it determines values from lookup tables.

It works with the different versions of Excel that I have access to. However, since it uses VBA for some of the functionality, it won't work with OpenOffice. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

If I got any of the rules or calculations wrong, please let me know.

Point Calculator Spreadsheet
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post Jan 26 2005, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 26 2005, 07:29 AM)
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the points are to class your car only. Not for any handicapping, correct? Once I've got enough points to be in super mod, it doesn't really matter where in the class I am. I could have 900 points but it won't matter when it comes to scoring.

(forgive me if this has been asked before, but this fricking thing is 10 pages long! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) )

Thanks, Paul

hey paul

SMod is SMod, you're right. whether you have 405 or 905 points, you are competing in SMod.

However, we want accurate reportings of points because we're also looking at doing a PAX-index in addition to the main classed-competition -- where each competitor's class-points are used to generate a handicap coefficient to multiply points by. so in that case, it DOES matter whether you have 405 vs 905 points -- even thought both put you in SMod.

other paul: spreadsheet won't unzip for me -- don't know if others are haven't that problem...
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post Jan 26 2005, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (nebreitling @ Jan 26 2005, 11:03 AM)
spreadsheet won't unzip for me -- don't know if others are haven't that problem...

the BBS software has a bug that adds a linebreak (0x0d 0x0a) to the beginning of attachments.

open the file in a hex-editor and remove the first 2 bytes and it'll work just fine ...
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Or get it directly from here:

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post Jan 26 2005, 01:44 PM
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Paul, did you copyright this? I'm not going to open it unless you did. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

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I can't open either, either.

BTW, can we get this moved to the "sticky" area?
It would be easier to follow Trekkor's "pre whining". (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 26 2005, 02:40 PM
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paul heeery: beautiful spread sheet man. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

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