FS: No Way this is a Real '70 914-6 on Ebay |
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FS: No Way this is a Real '70 914-6 on Ebay |
Mike Fitton |
Aug 25 2014, 03:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-May 11 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 13,069 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Porsche-914-9...=p2056016.l4276
There is a lot wrong with this car: adjustable passenger seat with '75-'76 large basket weave. Dash knobs incorrect. Drivers seat back cushion large basket weave, bottom cushion small basket weave. COA say originally Tangerine, I don't see Tangerine anywhere on this car, paint code plate is either painted over or missing. Door panels large basket weave. Throttle handle red. That's enough, someone else chime in. |
mskala |
Aug 25 2014, 03:55 PM
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There is nothing wrong with the dash knobs.
Been repainted though. Seat belts are late type, probably done the same time as seats/backpad. I don't know the cutoff year or time, but my car does not have the round piece of frame in front of the spare. Missing drain tube from fuel overflow. Also I don't know when it started, but my early car does not have the charcoal canister. Toolkit is ridiculous. Early cars had the jack mounts at the rear left of the trunk. In his 'spare parts' box is an engine lid drain tube that -6's did not have. 15" Fuchs are not original but nice. No headlight surrounds. Also, they should be the white ones. |
lostreasure |
Aug 25 2014, 04:48 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 24-June 13 From: new jersey Member No.: 16,048 Region Association: None |
Appears stamped vin in front compartment has been cut out and a 914-6 number placed?
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Mike Fitton |
Aug 25 2014, 05:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-May 11 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 13,069 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Dash knobs are late ones aren't they? Hazard knob should have the "VW" logo in the middle and Headlight knob should just have the light logo no writing, where is the fog light switch? Also vin plate in front trunk looks like it was added after paint, there is overspray everywhere and none on that plate. The round door vents should not have the plastic screens in them. The back trunk does not belong to this car.
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MLedesma |
Aug 25 2014, 06:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 13-October 06 From: Elizabeth, CO Member No.: 7,036 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Round supports around the spare tire did not come on early cars. Underbody style swaybar didn't come on any 914.
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roblav1 |
Aug 25 2014, 06:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 18-September 12 From: KY Member No.: 14,943 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Passenger seatback looks wrong. The right rear long underneath (at the bend) looks "crooked"... like a -4 engine mount was cut out. Mo evidence whatsoever of the original color.
Did the front trunks in 1970 have those supports? Something smells wrong! |
GaroldShaffer |
Aug 25 2014, 06:40 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,617 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
OK I will say it. It is a late car that has the /6 parts added. Front trunk is wrong, rear trunk jack holder is wrong, late cover on shift rod at firewall. Pull the passenger side carpet and I bet you find a late style foam insert. Also /6 wiper motors are different, I would need to pull the fresh air blower to confirm.
Also you can't add late style seat belts to an early firewall with out making mods to it. This post has been edited by Garold Shaffer: Aug 25 2014, 06:44 PM |
Mike Fitton |
Aug 25 2014, 06:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-May 11 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 13,069 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Dash heat/air control unit is a later one. I don't see the vin listed in the registry here.
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mskala |
Aug 25 2014, 07:01 PM
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Dash knobs are late ones aren't they? Hazard knob should have the "VW" logo in the middle and Headlight knob should just have the light logo no writing, where is the fog light switch? My apologies, after looking at mine, you are right. Whoever said where is the fog light switch, it could be that the car did not come with fogs. If they moved all the parts to another car, that pretty much explains everything, including why there is no trace of tangerine anywhere. Either this guy is a crook or he got taken by somebody else and is not aware. |
rhodyguy |
Aug 25 2014, 07:03 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,042 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
So that's what $27k plus WILL NOT buy these days. There's rust every where coming thru the white over red paint. Little wrongs are easy fixes. Very shoddy over all. I'd rather a well done conversion for that kind of money.
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pete000 |
Aug 25 2014, 11:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
This is a spooky one.
I see some orange on the headlight lids but thats about all for the orig orange paint evidence. The trunk id number look to have a lot of yellow paint around them and it is on the right, not in the center ? That front fender vin looks to be clearly cut and welded in, didnt even make an effort to hide the seam !!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Front torsion bar adjusters are late. If it was a real 1970 chassis some one went through a lot of work to ad all the late sheet metal bits (seat belt mounts, front support, jack mounting relocation, passenger seat mounting, cabin vent caps, etc..) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) If any car shouts vin swap this one sure does... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) The orig 914-6 dash would be fairly easy to swap into another chassis. Hand brake is from a late chassis. Has later larger rear view mirror, often a replacement. Late rear bumpers are often found on orig 6's due to replacements. The charcoal canister came on the USA 914-6's (Mine has one.) COA is nice, but the chassis looks late to me ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Run, don't walk ! ! ! ! ! |
Cuda911 |
Aug 26 2014, 01:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,489 Joined: 20-May 14 From: Oceanside (N. San Diego County), CA Member No.: 17,376 Region Association: Southern California |
Bidding's up to $38,600.
I guess plenty of bidders on this car aren't 914world members! Good observations, guys!!! |
carr914 |
Aug 26 2014, 04:30 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 117,683 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I smell a Lawsuit down the Road. But then again Idiots are bidding this Turd up.
Even if it was Real, a few years ago this would have been a $12,000 Restoration candidate |
mepstein |
Aug 26 2014, 06:05 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
no center dash vent
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mskala |
Aug 26 2014, 06:33 AM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,923 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
Shouldn't somebody 'Ask a Question' on ebay asking if the guy selling knows
this is a not real? |
Mblizzard |
Aug 26 2014, 06:41 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
Shouldn't somebody 'Ask a Question' on ebay asking if the guy selling knows this is a not real? I did this morning. Will keep you posted. Looks very odd when you add up all of the things mentioned. Funny, I just went back and checked and my question does not appear on the site??? |
carr914 |
Aug 26 2014, 06:47 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 117,683 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Seller has the Option of whether your Question appears or not
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Mblizzard |
Aug 26 2014, 06:53 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
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rhodyguy |
Aug 26 2014, 07:02 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,042 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
it explains EVERYTHING!!! although i haven't looked at the listing this am i get a whiff of shill biding.
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GaroldShaffer |
Aug 26 2014, 07:03 AM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,617 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
Shouldn't somebody 'Ask a Question' on ebay asking if the guy selling knows this is a not real? I did this morning. Will keep you posted. Looks very odd when you add up all of the things mentioned. Funny, I just went back and checked and my question does not appear on the site??? I did too. I called their number in the ad, no answer. Since they have a 100% feedback rating on ebay and they have sold other cars I would think they would know this car is not correct, but then again maybe they don't and think the COA is all they need? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) If they respond / call back I am not going to be a jerk, just want to point out they really need to look this car over because a vin swap car is a no - no (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
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