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> FS: No Way this is a Real '70 914-6 on Ebay
Mike Fitton
post Aug 25 2014, 03:14 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Porsche-914-9...=p2056016.l4276

There is a lot wrong with this car:
adjustable passenger seat with '75-'76 large basket weave.
Dash knobs incorrect.
Drivers seat back cushion large basket weave, bottom cushion small basket weave.
COA say originally Tangerine, I don't see Tangerine anywhere on this car, paint code plate is either painted over or missing.
Door panels large basket weave.
Throttle handle red.

That's enough, someone else chime in.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:55 PM
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There is nothing wrong with the dash knobs.

Been repainted though.

Seat belts are late type, probably done the same time as seats/backpad.
I don't know the cutoff year or time, but my car does not have the round
piece of frame in front of the spare.

Missing drain tube from fuel overflow.

Also I don't know when it started, but my early car does not have the
charcoal canister.

Toolkit is ridiculous.

Early cars had the jack mounts at the rear left of the trunk.

In his 'spare parts' box is an engine lid drain tube that -6's did not have.

15" Fuchs are not original but nice.

No headlight surrounds. Also, they should be the white ones.


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post Aug 25 2014, 04:48 PM
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Appears stamped vin in front compartment has been cut out and a 914-6 number placed?
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post Aug 25 2014, 05:47 PM
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Dash knobs are late ones aren't they? Hazard knob should have the "VW" logo in the middle and Headlight knob should just have the light logo no writing, where is the fog light switch? Also vin plate in front trunk looks like it was added after paint, there is overspray everywhere and none on that plate. The round door vents should not have the plastic screens in them. The back trunk does not belong to this car.
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post Aug 25 2014, 06:02 PM
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Round supports around the spare tire did not come on early cars. Underbody style swaybar didn't come on any 914.
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post Aug 25 2014, 06:08 PM
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Passenger seatback looks wrong. The right rear long underneath (at the bend) looks "crooked"... like a -4 engine mount was cut out. Mo evidence whatsoever of the original color.

Did the front trunks in 1970 have those supports?

Something smells wrong!
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post Aug 25 2014, 06:40 PM
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OK I will say it. It is a late car that has the /6 parts added. Front trunk is wrong, rear trunk jack holder is wrong, late cover on shift rod at firewall. Pull the passenger side carpet and I bet you find a late style foam insert. Also /6 wiper motors are different, I would need to pull the fresh air blower to confirm.

Also you can't add late style seat belts to an early firewall with out making mods to it.

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post Aug 25 2014, 06:43 PM
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Dash heat/air control unit is a later one. I don't see the vin listed in the registry here.
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post Aug 25 2014, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Aug 25 2014, 07:47 PM) *

Dash knobs are late ones aren't they? Hazard knob should have the "VW" logo in the middle and Headlight knob should just have the light logo no writing, where is the fog light switch?


My apologies, after looking at mine, you are right.

Whoever said where is the fog light switch, it could be that the car did
not come with fogs. If they moved all the parts to another car, that
pretty much explains everything, including why there is no trace of
tangerine anywhere. Either this guy is a crook or he got taken by
somebody else and is not aware.
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post Aug 25 2014, 07:03 PM
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So that's what $27k plus WILL NOT buy these days. There's rust every where coming thru the white over red paint. Little wrongs are easy fixes. Very shoddy over all. I'd rather a well done conversion for that kind of money.
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post Aug 25 2014, 11:45 PM
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This is a spooky one.

I see some orange on the headlight lids but thats about all for the orig orange paint evidence.

The trunk id number look to have a lot of yellow paint around them and it is on the right, not in the center ?

That front fender vin looks to be clearly cut and welded in, didnt even make an effort to hide the seam !!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Front torsion bar adjusters are late.

If it was a real 1970 chassis some one went through a lot of work to ad all the late sheet metal bits (seat belt mounts, front support, jack mounting relocation, passenger seat mounting, cabin vent caps, etc..) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
If any car shouts vin swap this one sure does... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

The orig 914-6 dash would be fairly easy to swap into another chassis.

Hand brake is from a late chassis.

Has later larger rear view mirror, often a replacement.

Late rear bumpers are often found on orig 6's due to replacements.

The charcoal canister came on the USA 914-6's (Mine has one.)

COA is nice, but the chassis looks late to me ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Run, don't walk ! ! ! ! !
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post Aug 26 2014, 01:17 AM
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Bidding's up to $38,600.

I guess plenty of bidders on this car aren't 914world members!

Good observations, guys!!!
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post Aug 26 2014, 04:30 AM
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I smell a Lawsuit down the Road. But then again Idiots are bidding this Turd up.

Even if it was Real, a few years ago this would have been a $12,000 Restoration candidate
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post Aug 26 2014, 06:05 AM
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no center dash vent
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post Aug 26 2014, 06:33 AM
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Shouldn't somebody 'Ask a Question' on ebay asking if the guy selling knows
this is a not real?
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post Aug 26 2014, 06:41 AM
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QUOTE(mskala @ Aug 26 2014, 04:33 AM) *

Shouldn't somebody 'Ask a Question' on ebay asking if the guy selling knows
this is a not real?


I did this morning. Will keep you posted. Looks very odd when you add up all of the things mentioned.

Funny, I just went back and checked and my question does not appear on the site???
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Seller has the Option of whether your Question appears or not
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Aug 26 2014, 04:47 AM) *

Seller has the Option of whether your Question appears or not


That may explain a lot!
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post Aug 26 2014, 07:02 AM
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it explains EVERYTHING!!! although i haven't looked at the listing this am i get a whiff of shill biding.
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post Aug 26 2014, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Aug 26 2014, 07:41 AM) *

QUOTE(mskala @ Aug 26 2014, 04:33 AM) *

Shouldn't somebody 'Ask a Question' on ebay asking if the guy selling knows
this is a not real?


I did this morning. Will keep you posted. Looks very odd when you add up all of the things mentioned.

Funny, I just went back and checked and my question does not appear on the site???


I did too. I called their number in the ad, no answer. Since they have a 100% feedback rating on ebay and they have sold other cars I would think they would know this car is not correct, but then again maybe they don't and think the COA is all they need? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

If they respond / call back I am not going to be a jerk, just want to point out they really need to look this car over because a vin swap car is a no - no (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
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