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Trailing Arm Hex Nuts |
Amphicar770 |
Apr 1 2016, 07:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,188 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Are the trailing arm hex nuts lock-nuts or just regular M14x1.5? The ones I took off my car appear to be lock-nuts but I do not know if they are original.
Thx. |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 1 2016, 08:49 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Interesting. I had thought they were lock-nuts as well, but the PET just says that they are nuts.
--DD |
rgalla9146 |
Apr 1 2016, 09:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,544 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
The originals were unusual. They were certainly not a standard featureless nut. They has a contact surface on one end and a slot cut toward the threads on the other end. They are a locking nut in that they will not just spin down a threaded shaft without resistance. They require effort to thread onto the pivot shaft from about 1/2 depth on. |
Amphicar770 |
Apr 1 2016, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,188 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yes, they are a bit odd. As new ones are NLA, what are people using?
I see AA sells a "repro" but don't know if that is just a standard M14x1.5 hex nut? I assume they can be reused, my old ones simply look crappy. |
Larmo63 |
Apr 1 2016, 09:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
I used the old ones. They are fine, Bruce re-plated them and they stay put.
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bdstone914 |
Apr 1 2016, 10:16 PM
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Amphicar770 |
Apr 2 2016, 04:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,188 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Is there only a washer (rather heavy duty one) on the one side?
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Rob-O |
Apr 2 2016, 09:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm not sure about the Nylon. Nylon deforms pretty easily, especially in a warm environment.
To the OP, I'd just reuse the original. Actually, let me rephrase that. I'd use sme of Bruce's replated originals |
rgalla9146 |
Apr 3 2016, 07:02 AM
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Amphicar770 |
Apr 3 2016, 08:13 AM
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Amphicar770 |
Apr 3 2016, 08:15 AM
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Larmo63 |
Apr 3 2016, 09:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Bruce Stone, our resident 914 parts guru.
His pedal sets and excellent re-plated 914 parts are legendary. bdstone914, he commented above. |
Olympic 914 |
Apr 3 2016, 10:23 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,661 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
I just did this and used these BMW nuts. they are all steel flanged locking nuts. I like the extra surface the flange has.
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Garland |
Apr 3 2016, 10:55 AM
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Original
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bdstone914 |
Apr 3 2016, 11:01 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,508 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
I'm not sure about the Nylon. Nylon deforms pretty easily, especially in a warm environment. To the OP, I'd just reuse the original. Actually, let me rephrase that. I'd use sme of Bruce's replated originals Bruce????? .Yes?????? I have never found a washer installed as shown on PET for the trailing arms. athe BMW nuts look like they will work but are not a locking type nut . I would you blue lock tite on them. Bruce |
Olympic 914 |
Apr 3 2016, 11:15 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,661 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
I'm not sure about the Nylon. Nylon deforms pretty easily, especially in a warm environment. To the OP, I'd just reuse the original. Actually, let me rephrase that. I'd use sme of Bruce's replated originals Bruce????? the BMW nuts look like they will work but are not a locking type nut . I would you blue lock tite on them. Bruce The BMW nuts are locking nuts they have the deformed top to lock the threads |
Garland |
Apr 3 2016, 11:25 AM
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Restoration Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,327 Joined: 8-January 04 From: ......Michigan...... Member No.: 1,535 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have never found a washer installed as shown on PET for the trailing arms. Bruce [/quote] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Never. |
Amphicar770 |
Apr 3 2016, 01:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,188 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Ahh. I do have Bruce's awesome rebuilt pedal set. Guess it's time to order the nuts from him as well.
When you guys say no washer. Does that apply to both sides of the pivot shaft? On the diagram it looks like one side only? The challenge when pulling old stuff apart is that one does not know if it was worked on prior. Thus, there are sometimes conflicts between what you see on the car and what the diagram shows. |
MikeM |
Apr 3 2016, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
I have washers on both inner mounts on my car.I just took the nuts off yesterday to check for wallowed out hole in the ear. Mine is a '74.
What difference would the washers make Bruce? Mike |
Amphicar770 |
Apr 10 2016, 05:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,188 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Just took a closer look at my 914. Looks like there were indeed inner washers on there. One is still sitting there and was pressed on in such a way that it looked like part of the inner assembly. The other one must have come off when I removed the trailing arms. (That also explains why I seemed to be short one washer).
Can't be sure but with just over 40k miles on my 914, I think it was original that way. |
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