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jmmotorsports
post Sep 4 2016, 08:10 AM
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Sorry to rehash old threads again, but we're about to embark on this project soon, I hope. We're looking at possibly either a, turbo'd 2.0 Type 4, Subaru or SBC v8 and an automatic transmission(for the veterans). My question, what transmission would work. I've read that Auto(fwd or 5000 model) will work. Passat trannys are the same as Boxsters, and Subaru fwd trannys.
Any suggestions or recommendations? We hope to do this over the winter.
We'd appreciate any suggestions to help us finally get this done. Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
. I heard GM makes a auto in one of their front wheel drive v8 cars, I would try and slam the whole shabang engine and tranny mounted transverse in the back of the 914. could be interesting little project. Good Luck

maybe a northstar and auto transmission
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post Sep 4 2016, 09:38 PM
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jmmotorsports, do you have any engine/tranny code numbers I can look up? I'll be glad to look up anything to see if I can get the parts and how expensive it may be.

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post Sep 4 2016, 11:13 PM
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What about a Fiero trans axle? I have seen v8's in Fieros with the manual transmission don't know if anyone has done one with a automatic. I'd guess it would all fit in a 914????

Fieros are transverse (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Sep 5 2016, 04:59 AM
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The center diff is custom torque biasing,the front diff any that will handle the power.
This is a great idea,thanks.Paddle shift/Full Auto,good to +1100 hp.
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This is it,real strong.
Mount the engine/trans normally transverse for a RWD,or,longitudinally for the far-out AWD 914.
Much more work,adapting rear and front diffs into the 914 chassis,front spindles to carry the axle shafts,brakes.
Why,an off-road V8 4x4 914,would be a quaint anachronism at the Paris-Dakar Rally.Fun too.
Simpler to come by than the aircooled Tatra V8,but,much heavier and more powerful.
Painted a flat shade of Sahara,adorned with Hellas and spares,it would make a pretty picture.
Down low with slicks,a twin-turbo would make some quick laps,with a great grip advantage.

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A rear subframe would definitely be in the works,to carry the loads,now much larger.
Heck,with the chassis already a racer,a migration to full tube is an easy one.
AWD 914...still a great idea Mike,and a mirror of the factory 959.Inspiring.
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Let's say you 'wants more gear',and six will do nicely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DzA3T5o1Ac


Shift Points,Ratio Data:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000136-5.html

Preventive Maintenance:
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Lighting up all the tires in a similar way would make a real nice 'RennWagen',and clothed in 914 guise,an unexpected surprise.
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The Northstar,or Shortstar option,being the least expensive 4-valve option,is narp.
So,a latemodel Porsche V8,is then the other end of the scale,not cheap.
This then,is a premium option,a scored 928 block,made new with wet liners,for a 5.8L displacement,7L,with the 3.75" stroker crank.
http://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/73700...28-engines.html
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post Sep 5 2016, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(jmmotorsports @ Sep 4 2016, 07:10 AM) *

QUOTE(cali914 @ Sep 2 2016, 07:09 AM) *

QUOTE(RacingDreamz @ Sep 2 2016, 12:10 AM) *

Sorry to rehash old threads again, but we're about to embark on this project soon, I hope. We're looking at possibly either a, turbo'd 2.0 Type 4, Subaru or SBC v8 and an automatic transmission(for the veterans). My question, what transmission would work. I've read that Auto(fwd or 5000 model) will work. Passat trannys are the same as Boxsters, and Subaru fwd trannys.
Any suggestions or recommendations? We hope to do this over the winter.
We'd appreciate any suggestions to help us finally get this done. Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
. I heard GM makes a auto in one of their front wheel drive v8 cars, I would try and slam the whole shabang engine and tranny mounted transverse in the back of the 914. could be interesting little project. Good Luck

maybe a northstar and auto transmission

I DO NOT HAVE ANY NUMBERS
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post Sep 8 2016, 09:28 AM
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Well,an option not yet considered here,is the pushrod V8,other than LS.
This is the cheap,lightweight Cadillac,aluminum block,iron head,4.9L.
A feature of this engine is the iron wet liners,roller cam,and aluminum rocker stud 'bridge'.

http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?6,13482,page=1
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=25...asc&start=0
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/ht4100-4-1-4-5-4/
https://www.google.ca/search?q=cadillac+4.9...94n3VYEc8DJM%3A
A hotrod approach,to make the heads breathe and rev,is an adventure.
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post Oct 24 2016, 07:16 PM
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I got an idea from a friend who didnt mean to express this idea but it happened anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Would/could a 944 engine coupled with the auto tranny be installed in a 914? Rather than the torque tube, attach directly to transmission. Would this work?
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post Oct 24 2016, 08:33 PM
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I got an idea from a friend who didnt mean to express this idea but it happened anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Would/could a 944 engine coupled with the auto tranny be installed in a 914? Rather than the torque tube, attach directly to transmission. Would this work?

search for pictures of a 944 with a stock engine and then for a gm ls engine, that should sum up the space issue of using a 944 in a 914
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post Oct 24 2016, 08:52 PM
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Anything can fit if you have a plasma cutter and a welder... Moving the firewall forward is very possible; Rick did that for the Alien. Works well for him because he doesn't need as much legroom as some of us. Or he figured the 928 engine was worth sacrificing some legroom for!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Oct 24 2016, 10:30 PM
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I still know where that FWD auto trans is out of the SVX. Needs new bands, but from what I understand, they're easy to rebuild.
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post Oct 24 2016, 10:38 PM
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I still know where that FWD auto trans is out of the SVX. Needs new bands, but from what I understand, they're easy to rebuild.


George, I may be in touch with you about that. Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 24 2016, 10:54 PM
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944 distributor sticks out in the front of the motor. You would need a wasted spark setup or the cap and rotor will be part of the passenger seat.

Buy a VW passat V6 or I4 with an auto tranny. Easy fit and is still German. You will want a 1999 to 2002 year.
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post Oct 25 2016, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Oct 25 2016, 12:54 AM) *

944 distributor sticks out in the front of the motor. You would need a wasted spark setup or the cap and rotor will be part of the passenger seat.

Buy a VW passat V6 or I4 with an auto tranny. Easy fit and is still German. You will want a 1999 to 2002 year.



Mike, I forgot all about that. Thanks for reminding me. I should have known that. I just sold one. DOH!!

On the VW, how bad would the wiring be? Turbo or non?
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post Oct 25 2016, 01:44 AM
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I pulled the SVX trans out of an AWD car and converted it to FWD only. I have some measuring to do at RRC to finalize my dimensions for my EG33 swap. Currently the car in on a new rotisserie with me installing the new floor pans and the other needed reinforcements to make it solid enough to handle the power. I'll post my findings after this next weekend but I agree that the Subie/auto trans swap is probably the easiest and less expensive way to go.



Thanks. Looking forward to your notes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I ended up taking the whole month of September off and traveling around the East Coast and surrounding areas, including Octeenerfest and one of my girls getting married. It took a bit longer to get the car up on the rotisserie but the EG33 (SVX) plus the auto trans is roughly 53 inches in length total once the trans was converted to 2wd. There's room for it all but if you go with the 4 banger, you'll still have plenty of power (especially if it's turboed!) and the whole assembly will save you about 6 inches I believe. Good luck!
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Sep 2 2016, 02:56 PM) *

The smartest and easiest choice would be a Subaru n/a 6 cylinder with mating automatic transmission from the same car.

No silly engine adapters or special flywheels/flex plates.

Plenty of power, no need for the bragging rights just to say you have V8 as much as I like some of those conversions.


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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Oct 25 2016, 12:54 AM) *

944 distributor sticks out in the front of the motor. You would need a wasted spark setup or the cap and rotor will be part of the passenger seat.

Buy a VW passat V6 or I4 with an auto tranny. Easy fit and is still German. You will want a 1999 to 2002 year.



Mike, I forgot all about that. Thanks for reminding me. I should have known that. I just sold one. DOH!!

On the VW, how bad would the wiring be? Turbo or non?


For simplicity I suggest a v6. Plumbing an intercooler with the turbo gets a little difficult. Also the v6 sounds really good.

If you have a donor car wiring wont be to bad as you would run that cars wiring harness and get rid of anything you wont use. If not it will be extremely difficult.
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