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stownsen914 |
Apr 9 2020, 07:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 930 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
Lookin' good, keep up the good work!
Re: a diffuser, it is possible, but it does require some work to do it right. There is some room behind the engine and next to the trans to do a diffuser, but a few things are in the way, notably the exhaust and the shift linkage. I put a diffuser on my 914 and had to move both of those things. Lots of fab to do that. And then making the diffuser was a task. You'd be up to it though, based on the work you're doing with the wings, etc. I don't have great pics of the diffuser, but there are some pics of my car in the thread below, including a view from the back. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...320084&st=0 |
914 Ranch |
Apr 9 2020, 08:04 PM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks again Scott, now I have to make up a diffuser but I have a really good idea what I need to do. Avoiding the shift linkage with a tunnel makes a lot of sense. I would like to put the exhaust in there as well.
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infraredcalvin |
Apr 10 2020, 12:03 AM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,571 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California |
This guy did some crazy work with a diffuser on a turbo... some fun reading on his diffuser.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-tur...lans-911-a.html |
914 Ranch |
Apr 10 2020, 04:35 AM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
This guy did some crazy work with a diffuser on a turbo... some fun reading on his diffuser. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-tur...lans-911-a.html Thanks that was a nice read with a great post from Scott. My plan, should I have thought that I actualy have one is to lower the front of the car as I have mentioned early on. The rear of the car is planted and has the hreat temps and scuffing on the inside and outside of the tire. So I really don't want to change anything in the rear of the car. But the front is another hole can of worms. I seem to be able to find money for some parts, I would think I would be able to find some for lighting the shop. There it is I called myself out now I have to fix it. This has worked out really well, just like the front it looks really neat. |
914 Ranch |
Apr 10 2020, 05:27 AM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for the link Calvin. Found a nice post from Scott there also. Petri's post have a ton of info that is as appropriate today as it was when it was written 10 years ago. Until now I have not had to pay much attention to ride height. Now it has become critical. I don't like the front suspension and I am going to have to do something about it. When I become a RMF (Rich Mother Falconer) I'll put some Elephants in the car. The cross beam is more than I wanted to spend on the hole front suspension.
Old Team NARP Headquarters is supposed to go on the market soon, maybe I will be able to put some Elephants in the front end. There I go dreaming again, speaking of dreaming again, WE NEED TO GATHER... I should open up another thread for this just because I don't think it can happen before Aug. If I start planning now we might be able to have a nice event. |
914 Ranch |
Apr 10 2020, 06:29 AM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
The bottm of the rear wing is about 7/8" higher than the top of the targa fairing. I can raise the wing some but at this time I don't feel like it's too low. When I get her out for road test I'll put some streamers off the targa and see what's up.
You can hardly see it but the yellow part is a Stabila level that is magnetic and is holding a straight edge out under the bottom of the wing. |
stownsen914 |
Apr 10 2020, 09:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 930 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
Thanks again Scott, now I have to make up a diffuser but I have a really good idea what I need to do. Avoiding the shift linkage with a tunnel makes a lot of sense. I would like to put the exhaust in there as well. Racecars are just never done ... The other thing to get out of the way of the diffuser is the exhaust. I wound up reconfiguring some 911 headers to do this, turned around so they are "backward" on the engine compared to how they would sit in a 911. This did require some fab to move a couple of the primary tubes so they wouldn't hit the chainboxes and shift linkage, if memory serves correctly. The 911 headers wrap toward the front of the car, and I angled the tailpipe upward from the collector to site on top of the diffuser. The 914/6 headers are more directly in the way since they go almost straight back from the engine. A friend has a tube frame 914 that has a diffuser and uses regular 914/6 headers and I guess cut them to angle them upward to clear the diffuser. And here are some pics of it from an old classified ad! One of them shows the exhaust from the back. http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/porsche/914gt2/914gt2pp.htm |
euro911 |
Apr 10 2020, 12:27 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Joe, have you thought about making the angle of attack adjustable for fine tuning?
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914 Ranch |
Apr 11 2020, 08:20 AM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
It would be nice to have the wings adjustable but I think that I really need to get her running before I try to make her fancy. I don't want to make a list of the stuff that needs to be done. If I can just do the stuff that the chassis needs I can run her. And I believe that I can do it this year.
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euro911 |
Apr 11 2020, 06:20 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Hey, lookie here, Joe ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif)
4-Fin ABS 22"x 21" Diffuser ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
914 Ranch |
Apr 13 2020, 07:09 AM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
Picked up some high fill primer in white for the front wing and some stuff to do the fuel pump off switch. I want to be able to run the carbs dry.
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914 Ranch |
Apr 13 2020, 09:59 AM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
I fallow Dana's Ankle Biter and watched him just see a diffuser and buy it cause he knew it would fit. Everything I see looks like it belongs on another car. I don't think that will be ready for that this year.
Making progress on the dash right now. Moved 2 switches and added 2 lights. One each for the ignition in red and a green for the fuel pump. |
914 Ranch |
Apr 17 2020, 04:12 PM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
Just posted a picture of a before and after pictures. So I got the before pic from Carl La Fong many years ago but I couldn't figure out how to post it. Got some help and now I have it in an album here so I can use it. Before I edit the original post again I want to try
Before On going as it is not ready for the track. Wow, just WOW!!! |
914 Ranch |
Apr 21 2020, 05:10 PM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
Here we go with 6 new pictures outside, she hasn't been outside for a few years.
AAAOOOUUUUUUU, she looks fast sitting just sitting there. I especially like this shot as it shows the angles of the surfaces of the top of AR. Everything is at 10°. The front wing the hood, the the windscreens and the rear wing. I feel just like I did when I put the cowling and windscreens on. I have no Falcon idea what I am doing or where I am going... AWSOME, excuse me as I am taken by my own creation. Nice shots... I love my home ❤️. |
euro911 |
Apr 21 2020, 11:34 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
If it were mine, I'd name it "The Weed Whacker" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
Looking 'Sharp', Joe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
914 Ranch |
Apr 23 2020, 01:19 AM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
Getting the AR out of the shop was to clean up in the shop. When I put her back into the shop, I backed her in so I could work on the front of her as the front wing is just sitting there. Had some delemma about the attachment point. I think I have worked it out and hopefully it will be OK. I clamped the horse head brackets in place and am happy with the ride height of the foil. So for now I'm just going to be screwing around with the front of the car.
I believe that Scott had requested pics of her outside but I don't feel like she is ready for this as the ride height is not set yet and I really want to do that on level payment, but there isn't any here. When the HB house sells that's all going to change. Even the floor in the garage needs to be changed. I AM LOVING ALL THE SUPPORT FROM THIS COMMUNITY ❤️❤️❤️.... |
914 Ranch |
Apr 23 2020, 01:27 AM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
I pulled the front wing off of AR and it took just over 2 minutes.
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914 Ranch |
Apr 27 2020, 09:39 AM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
WIFI has been down so I forgot what pictures I had taken.
Oh yeah, that. I'm getting ready to put in the screws for the bractets to the body. I need to cut the backing and the hole in the center of the top of the bracket. Then I can start screwing the bracket to the body. |
914 Ranch |
May 2 2020, 04:27 PM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
Trying to work out the trailing edge of the rear foil. Trying to bring the foil to a straight pointed end isn't easy. So I'm working on the vertical wing wind mill foils to get some experience, and make a plan so that the foil looks good, straight and clean when it's done.
I covered the table in none stick foil and made a 6.5 ounce single layer of fiberglass. Cut 2" strips and but jointed 2 of them together to fold it into a V. It is taped in place so I can flip it over useing the blue tape as a hinge. Paint on the epoxy and glue the trailing edge back in place and tape it down. |
914 Ranch |
May 3 2020, 06:51 PM
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Team Sharp where the 914 grow wings Group: Members Posts: 1,460 Joined: 29-January 16 From: TheNorth Shore Retreat. Deland Member No.: 19,611 Region Association: South East States |
Finally got back to the rear wing and looks good for me to fiberglass it tomorrow.
The trailing edge is just taped in place at the moment, it just looks really clean and straight Thats really important to me because being DIY it is off the wall having a well executed appearance I believe makes the car more intimidating. I'll glue in the trailing edge tonight and glass it in the morning. Will be nice to see it mounted in white primer. |
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