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post Jan 2 2018, 06:07 PM
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Hey guys, I know there's lot's of tire posts on here already and I've not really read through them much.
If there is already a thread covering this please drop a link and it would be appreciated!

Anyways it's new tire time for the 914 but I'm not sure what size or brand of tires would be the best bang for the buck while still giving good grip and decent life.
Car is a stock d-jet 2.0L 1974 with rivieras. Only street driving, no auto-x or drag racing etc etc.

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post Jan 2 2018, 07:12 PM
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Here's some in size 195-65/15R - https://www.eurotire.com/performance-passen...sortOrder=brand
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post Jan 2 2018, 07:46 PM
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The best tires are the ones you buy at America’s Tire. Free rotation, Balance and Road hazard. Plus you are out of there in a hour. Or you can go to Tire Rack. Get them shipped to your house take them to a installer and after all this it cost you a week of your life and you have the same tire. All because someone wanted to save 20 bucks....
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post Jan 2 2018, 07:59 PM
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There are a lot of possible tires available but IMO the Vredestein Sprint Classics are pretty darn good.....they have the vintage appearance, good grip, correct sizes and very reasonably priced. They offer the original tire size for your 2.0L in 165HR15 as well as the optional 185/70HR15 size. You can get them through tire rack...$118.00/tire for the 165 or $165.00/tire for the 185 size. There are better tires....Michelin XWX, Pirelli Cinturato CN36, etc. but those tires are expensive....starting at $250.00/tire.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...C&tab=Sizes
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post Jan 2 2018, 09:39 PM
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I like my 205/60 15 Yokohamas......
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post Jan 2 2018, 10:09 PM
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I've read somewhere a very pithy expression:

"A tire is a series of compromises, in the shape of a donut."

Tires have lots of different characteristics, which usually can be traded off against each other in different ways. You need to figure out what is important to you, and research as well as you can with that in mind.

A few of the characteristics that come to mind:
- Dry grip
- Wet grip
- Hydroplaning resistance
- Cold-weather grip
- Grip in snow
- Noise
- Rolling resistance
- Durability
- Price
- Appearance
- Ride comfort

And there are, of course, the various sizes you can also get. The original size would have been 165R15 (165/80-15), while usually sizes up to 205 can fit on stock wheels under stock or slightly-tweaked fenders.

For the ultimate dry grip, the "R compound" competition tires are the way to go. But you'll replace them every year, they're expensive, they're jarring, they're super dangerous on snow (and often very poor in the wet), and pretty much mediocre or lousy in everything but dry grip.

For an "original driving" type experience, something like the Vredestien Sprint tires mentioned above in 165/80-15 should be pretty close.

Other tires work the compromises in other ways.

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post Jan 2 2018, 11:27 PM
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Your running Rivera s

Sound like its time for new wheels and tires

My car was sold to me with riveras , an im not a big fan
Tires i have are touring and 195,65,15 and are pretty
Rock solid.


Look for some 4 bolt fuchs, makes a big difference
When combined with a good tire
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post Jan 2 2018, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(Coondog @ Jan 2 2018, 05:46 PM) *

The best tires are the ones you buy at America’s Tire. Free rotation, Balance and Road hazard. Plus you are out of there in a hour. Or you can go to Tire Rack. Get them shipped to your house take them to a installer and after all this it cost you a week of your life and you have the same tire. All because someone wanted to save 20 bucks....



Take a look at these, great tire for the price:

https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/gene...ax-rt43/p/18898

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post Jan 3 2018, 11:32 AM
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So it seems like ***/65/15 is a fairly common size people are running, which is shorter than the original 80. How much of a difference does that make and in what ways? I would think lower speeds through the gears but maybe a bit more "uumph" when you hit the throttle?


QUOTE(thelogo @ Jan 2 2018, 09:27 PM) *

Your running Rivera s

Sound like its time for new wheels and tires

My car was sold to me with riveras , an im not a big fan
Tires i have are touring and 195,65,15 and are pretty
Rock solid.


Look for some 4 bolt fuchs, makes a big difference
When combined with a good tire


I'd really love a set of 4 bolt Mahles. Unfortunately, unless someone wants to give me a great deal on a set I can't really afford Fuchs or Mahles right now. There's some Pedrini's over on the samba right now though maybe I'll look into those.
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post Jan 3 2018, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Nogoodwithusernames @ Jan 3 2018, 09:32 AM) *

So it seems like ***/65/15 is a fairly common size people are running, which is shorter than the original 80. How much of a difference does that make and in what ways? I would think lower speeds through the gears but maybe a bit more "uumph" when you hit the throttle?


QUOTE(thelogo @ Jan 2 2018, 09:27 PM) *

Your running Rivera s

Sound like its time for new wheels and tires

My car was sold to me with riveras , an im not a big fan
Tires i have are touring and 195,65,15 and are pretty
Rock solid.


Look for some 4 bolt fuchs, makes a big difference
When combined with a good tire


I'd really love a set of 4 bolt Mahles. Unfortunately, unless someone wants to give me a great deal on a set I can't really afford Fuchs or Mahles right now. There's some Pedrini's over on the samba right now though maybe I'll look into those.
















How about these


http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/914-9...1-2-p20470.html
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post Jan 3 2018, 11:50 AM
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I'd stick with the Riveras before going to those wheels, 4.5" wide? No thanks.
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post Jan 3 2018, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Jan 3 2018, 09:41 AM) *

QUOTE(Nogoodwithusernames @ Jan 3 2018, 09:32 AM) *

So it seems like ***/65/15 is a fairly common size people are running, which is shorter than the original 80. How much of a difference does that make and in what ways? I would think lower speeds through the gears but maybe a bit more "uumph" when you hit the throttle?


QUOTE(thelogo @ Jan 2 2018, 09:27 PM) *

Your running Rivera s

Sound like its time for new wheels and tires

My car was sold to me with riveras , an im not a big fan
Tires i have are touring and 195,65,15 and are pretty
Rock solid.

Look for some 4 bolt fuchs, makes a big difference
When combined with a good tire


I'd really love a set of 4 bolt Mahles. Unfortunately, unless someone wants to give me a great deal on a set I can't really afford Fuchs or Mahles right now. There's some Pedrini's over on the samba right now though maybe I'll look into those.


How about these


http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/914-9...1-2-p20470.html


I feel like if I'm going to get anything I'll get an upgrade from the rivieras and I don't really like the steel wheels on the 914. Just personal preference on that. But maybe these? A lot cheaper than any of the Mahle gas burners I've seen for sale. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=317183
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post Jan 3 2018, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(Nogoodwithusernames @ Jan 3 2018, 09:52 AM)



Those are nice and good price for 5 wheels.
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post Jan 3 2018, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jan 3 2018, 09:55 AM) *

QUOTE(Nogoodwithusernames @ Jan 3 2018, 09:52 AM)



Those are nice and good price for 5 wheels.



They should clean up nicely too!

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post Jan 3 2018, 01:58 PM
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I’ve always used Tire Rack. They’ll drop ship the tires to your local installer (they have/had a list of recommended installers) and then you can go at your convenience. The service has always been great.
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post Jan 3 2018, 02:38 PM
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I too will be in the market for new tires soon, picking up my new-to-me 15x7 wheels today to replace my 16x7 Phonedials (53mm offset so using 1" spacers front and rear that I don't like)

Looking at these 2:

https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/kumh...sta-ast/p/33648

or

https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/nitto-neo-gen/p/40306
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post Jan 3 2018, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jan 3 2018, 03:38 PM) *

I too will be in the market for new tires soon, picking up my new-to-me 15x7 wheels today to replace my 16x7 Phonedials (53mm offset so using 1" spacers front and rear that I don't like)

Looking at these 2:

https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/kumh...sta-ast/p/33648

or

https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/nitto-neo-gen/p/40306


I personnel have hated the Kumho AST every time I have driven on them.

First car I had the on was a Nissan Sentra Spec V, car made enough power to be a handful with these tires, I sold the car before I changed tires. They sucked in the wet, and cold. Wet being any bit of water on the road. Think damp here, and cold think below 50 degrees. You could feel the co-efficent of friction change as you drove over various critical road items, like the painted stripe if you put your wheel on the line at the apex of the corner. Don't get me started on them if you happened to hit a fresh section of asphalt patch and some one spit out the window. They sucked to drive on, so bad. They some how ended up on my old A4 Jetta TDI, which put out a ton of torques. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) When it was damp with these tires I could be rolling up the highway at 65 put my foot down and spin the tires as long as I wanted, in 5th gear. I switched to General Altimax HPs for my none sport oriented daily drivers. My fathers Miate. And the G-Max AS-03s went on the Jetta, and my wife Miata. Love these tires, good wet performance, excellent dry performance, and had been caught in snow with them, and did not stop me at all.

My EG build I have a set of wheels with the Kumho ASTs on it. The plan is to mount them on the car, work out the tuning, then ROAST the LIVING ______ OUT OF THEM DOING DONUTS. I just want to see them go up in a cloud of white, all the way to the cords. The entire Time having the Ghetto Boys- Damn it feels good to be a gangsta play in the back ground on a loop of Dye M_____F___er Dye!

Yes I hate those tires that much.

Hope this review helps you choose Mike, no experience with the Nitto's heard good things. Might try them after I Roast those M____ F___'in ASTs
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QUOTE(Nogoodwithusernames @ Jan 3 2018, 09:32 AM) *

So it seems like ***/65/15 is a fairly common size people are running, which is shorter than the original 80. How much of a difference does that make and in what ways?


Remember that the /80 or the /65 is a percentage of the tire width figure. So 195/65-15 is pretty close in diameter to 165/80-15.

And also remember that all of these numbers are approximations to actual measurements. Sometimes very very loose approximations, depending on the tire make/model.

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I chose the Vredestein's. Purchased from Tires Unlimited in Dayton and had them shipped to a local tire shop for installation. Info shown from 3/16.Attached Image
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Shipping 5 wheels with tires mounted is going to be very, very expensive. Esp cross country.
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