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doug_b_928
post Apr 13 2018, 09:01 AM
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It's unseasonably cold here so no work on the car outside yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif). Figured maybe I'll work inside on the shifter this weekend. I didn't see a thread on restoring the shifter. Is this something that just requires a good cleaning, or should it be disassembled, cleaned, painted, and new grease added? Pics of mine below.

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post Apr 13 2018, 10:02 AM
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In for a penny, in for a pound. I would take it all apart, clean it, check for excessive wear, paint or powder coat, reassemble, and grease.
The spring is under a lot of tension so wear leather gloves and eye protection for removal and install. When installing the spring, use Phillips head screwdriver in place of the pin. Work the spring in place using vise grips to hold it and then push the screwdriver out by placing the pin back in place. The spring is too hard to muscle in with out vise grips and the screwdriver makes it easier to hold until replaced with the pin.
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post Apr 13 2018, 10:42 AM
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Order new bushings as well that go under the spring plate.
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post Apr 13 2018, 10:48 AM
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Thanks, guys. Is anyone aware of a good thread on restoring this part? Eric’s thread was really helpful for the pedal cluster. Something like that out there somewhere?
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post Apr 13 2018, 11:10 AM
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Put a vicegrip on a spring, remove the 4 circlips, push the 2 pins out and remove the springs. This method prevents the springs from flying across the garage. this is what the detention plate should look like. straight across the re-inforcing plate on the underside. as they wear, the center of the plate gets wallowed out and there usually is a gouge on the shift lever. adding the loss of material on the lever and a spent plate it is certainly is of no help setting the linkage.

The backing plate has slight bevel.


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post Apr 13 2018, 04:13 PM
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Thanks again guys for your encouragement and assistance. I'm surprised at how easy it actually was to get it apart. Knowing what I know now, it's definitely 'an in for a pound' item. The detention plate looks good as does everything else to my eyes. But I do have some questions:

The shifter bracket has a small kink (pictured below). It didn't impede anything. Is it supposed to be like that?

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As this is a 73 there is not a ball cup. But there is a shifter spacer sleeve. It's metal. Mine looks good with some, what appears to me to be, very minor wear. I don't have a replacement. Is it fine to reuse this one or should it be replaced as a matter of course? Here are some pics:



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post Apr 13 2018, 04:26 PM
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After looking more closely at Rhodyguy's post, I could see where I should be looking so I re-inspected mine and there is wear on the plate and corresponding marks on the shifter. So, I guess another question is how bad is this?

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post Apr 13 2018, 04:35 PM
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You can certainly reuse the shifter sleeve. Be sure to lube it before reinstalling. I used white lithium grease.
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post Apr 13 2018, 06:59 PM
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So I see that the 'Reverse Lockout Plate' is still available new. How do we assess the wear above to determine whether it needs replacing?

I'll use White Lithium for the sleeve (thanks Rick), but what is the correct grease for the shifter? There was grease everywhere but I assume I just put some on the 'ball' area of the shifter where it sits in the shifter plate, correct?
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post Apr 14 2018, 06:17 AM
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What kind of condition were the 2 plastic bushings (Haynes. P 89. #s 15&17) in?. Your springs were pretty gunked up too. I've seen the wear point on the lever much worse. Replacing the plate is your call. While you're in there....
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post Apr 14 2018, 06:24 AM
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I’ll take some pics of the others and post in a bit.
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post Apr 14 2018, 06:56 AM
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The small springs cleaned up nicely (didn't get a pic). Here are the bushings. I didn't separate the big spring from the bushing because it looks to be very well seated within it.

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post Apr 14 2018, 07:29 AM
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Hummm.......... I made the springs for the late, maybe I should look at making a kit??? Both early and late.
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post Apr 14 2018, 07:33 AM
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Yes.

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So what kind of grease is recommended and should it just be placed on the shifter ball area where it rides in the shifter plate?
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post Apr 14 2018, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Apr 14 2018, 06:56 AM) *

So what kind of grease is recommended and should it just be placed on the shifter ball area where it rides in the shifter plate?

White Lithium, CV grease, does not really matter. That shift plate is fine to use. Insoect the round pin inside of the housing that can be seen in the image looking in from the top. The early shifters swear that pin badly into a D shape. Cant really tell on yours if it is worn.
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The round pin looks perfect, so good news for a change that I don't have to buy any parts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
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post Apr 14 2018, 09:36 AM
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the reinforcing piece sits just shy of the leading edge of the plate on the one I posted. yours has worn beyond the leading edge and into the reinforcing piece.
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QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Apr 15 2018, 03:28 AM) *

The round pin looks perfect, so good news for a change that I don't have to buy any parts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).


Noticed that bushing spring looks a bit distorted,is it level when sitting on a flat surface,if not might pay to replace it.
Yes the lookout plate can be bought new but is $77 anyone seen it cheaper genuine part anywhere ?
Is there any benefit in replace the two main springs....Bruce do you know ?.
doug b 928 thanks for this thread ,never had mine apart but plan to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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post Apr 15 2018, 05:26 PM
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Reuse the springs unless they are broken.
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