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Self loosening axle bolts-will spring waters take care of this? |
Tdskip |
Oct 15 2018, 07:06 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,678 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Good morning-hope everybody had a good weekend.
It would seem as if one of the rights of 914 ownership passages is dealing with self-loosening axle bolts. Will the correct size spring washers from Ace deal with this, or do I need special serrated ones, or do I need to safety wire them? Thanks in advance for the help, have a good morning. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Oct 15 2018, 07:38 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
New Schnoor washers and proper torque will keep them right. Threads need to be clean
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mepstein |
Oct 15 2018, 07:40 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,215 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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VaccaRabite |
Oct 15 2018, 07:55 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,417 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yes the new Schnoor washers and clean threads, but adding safety wire does not hurt either.
Zach |
wndsrfr |
Oct 15 2018, 08:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 30-April 09 From: Rescue, Virginia Member No.: 10,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yes the new Schnoor washers and clean threads, but adding safety wire does not hurt either. Zach (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
Tdskip |
Oct 15 2018, 08:08 AM
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Thanks Gentlemen
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914forme |
Oct 15 2018, 05:06 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I do that, and then safety wire them. That works every time. You do that when you are younger and drive the 914 to clients. The CV fell off on my way to one of them, no problem, except hand got covered in CV grease, luckily I knew them well, not a first impression sort of thing. Still not my most professional day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)
Same day I also discovered my fuel level sender was not working and ran out of fuel on the way back home. Murphy was batting a 1000 that day. Still had a huge smile on my face from (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Tdskip |
Oct 15 2018, 07:49 PM
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Mark Henry |
Oct 15 2018, 07:56 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
That's not a factory bolt or washer.
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SirAndy |
Oct 15 2018, 07:57 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,601 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
That bolt doesn't look right, also, the center part of the threads is stripped ...
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jcd914 |
Oct 15 2018, 08:00 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
Pulled one to go make sure I get the right size washers. The split washers on here for apparently useless, and the threads were very greasy Those bolts are not the original type of bolt used for 914 CV joints. I would be ordering some new bolts and probably get the "drilled for safety wire" bolts since I was getting new bolts. You need to be sure the bolts are the correct strength. Jim |
914sgofast2 |
Oct 15 2018, 08:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 610 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
It’s the wrong bolt for the CV joints. They are supposed to be the riebe style, which looks somewhat like an internal multi faceted Allen bolt. As already stated, you also need the special schnorr (spelling?) style of lock washers for the bolts. |
Mark Henry |
Oct 15 2018, 08:06 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
That bolt doesn't look right, also, the center part of the threads is stripped ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Flattened, likely from banging against the loose CV. Factory bolts /4 are only threaded part way, 8mm tri-square female. schnorr washers are thin wavy washers with teeth ridges. |
914_teener |
Oct 15 2018, 09:37 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,193 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Go buy a lottery ticket if you had that on the freeway.
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Larmo63 |
Oct 15 2018, 09:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm pretty sure 914 Rubber sells the correct drilled ones.....?
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Mikey914 |
Oct 15 2018, 10:06 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Yep
https://shop.914rubber.com/914-CV-bolt-dril...m?categoryId=-1 Got the wire and tool if you need it. Also just the Schorr washers .20 each https://shop.914rubber.com/Schnorr-washers-...-part-SCHM8.htm |
pete000 |
Oct 15 2018, 10:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
Rebuilding my CV joints and noticed my car was missing one roll pin and had no schorr washers ! Replacing all the bolts, adding the washers. Amazed the car did not have any issues running just on roll pin on one of the joints. I guess low power application helps !
What is the torque spec for the CV bolts? |
RenoRoger |
Oct 16 2018, 03:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 11-November 10 From: Reno, NV Member No.: 12,370 Region Association: Northern California |
Rebuilding my CV joints and noticed my car was missing one roll pin and had no schorr washers ! Replacing all the bolts, adding the washers. Amazed the car did not have any issues running just on roll pin on one of the joints. I guess low power application helps ! What is the torque spec for the CV bolts? Haynes says 31lbs, others say 25 lbs |
wndsrfr |
Oct 16 2018, 06:05 AM
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IronHillRestorations |
Oct 16 2018, 06:22 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,712 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
The Schnoor washers are a one and done part, which is why we get in trouble in the early years of 914 ownership.
"Ya mean I have to get new ones every time I pull the engine?", yes. |
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