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| Tdskip |
 Dec 4 2018, 07:23 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 3,684 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None 
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If you find yourself as I did yesterday with a new to you car that won't shift properly stop what you are doing and make sure there is oil in the gearbox.
I don't think I did any harm in the two around the block gingerly drive I did before it got recalcitrant, but lesson learned. Thanks to Gabe in HB for the dope slap to stop what I was doing and check. |
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| Tdskip |
Dec 4 2018, 07:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,684 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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Update - I should of mentioned above that I bought the car from a member here who happens;
1) to be a nice guy 2) to be a good guy 3) a full on 914 guy That community member has have zero responsibility since I didn't check it before I drove it around the block even though I knew it had sat for quite a while and may well have had a gearbox leak. The car showed up exactly as described and I inspected it before hand as well. In case 1-2-3 above still aren't clear - the Ima Dope refers to me and only me. We now return you to you regularly scheduled programing. |
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| GregAmy |
Dec 5 2018, 07:27 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,266 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States
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Been there, done that...
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| DRPHIL914 |
Dec 5 2018, 07:54 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,758 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States
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you are not alone, I think this is fairly common thing, but it should be at the top of the to-do list for the newbe owner - I was a newbe owner , first time 914 owner and started driving the car as soon as I got it running , but noticed the shifting was not always on , sync from first to second and back down was not what it should be so I suspected some synco and dog teeth wear, but like a dummy I didn't even check the gear box oil until a couple months later. the thing was way down, I mean like I am not sure there was even a quart in there! Best thing I ever did was do the transmission rebuild clinic though with Dr. Evil. My box was actually in very good condition, just needing new seals and the dog teethe and syncros new at 1-2 and 3. very little wear and no galling on any of the gears. amazing for a 40 year old transmission!
oh, btw skip, your title, at first I though you were selling something (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) it say brought to you "buy" rather than "by" lol. I wasn't sure what "buy ima dope" was (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
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| Tdskip |
Dec 5 2018, 07:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,684 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Dec 5 2018, 08:27 AM)  Been there, done that... Good morning, I had another member ping me and say it happen to a friend of theirs too. Hope this helps other new owners keep this in mind. Have a good day. |
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| Tdskip |
Dec 5 2018, 07:57 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,684 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(DRPHIL914 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:54 AM) you are not alone, I think this is fairly common thing, but it should be at the top of the to-do list for the newbe owner - I was a newbe owner , first time 914 owner and started driving the car as soon as I got it running , but noticed the shifting was not always on , sync from first to second and back down was not what it should be so I suspected some synco and dog teeth wear, but like a dummy I didn't even check the gear box oil until a couple months later. the thing was way down, I mean like I am not sure there was even a quart in there! Best thing I ever did was do the transmission rebuild clinic though with Dr. Evil. My box was actually in very good condition, just needing new seals and the dog teethe and syncros new at 1-2 and 3. very little wear and no galling on any of the gears. amazing for a 40 year old transmission! oh, btw skip, your title, at first I though you were selling something (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) it say brought to you "buy" rather than "by" lol. I wasn't sure what "buy ima dope" was (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) See Dr, I am a dope! Fixed the title. |
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| injunmort |
Dec 5 2018, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
before tearing into yours trans. make sure all the shifter bushings are intact and if a side shifter the cone screw is tight. I have never bought a 914 that had good bushings. I always replace them first.
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| Tdskip |
Dec 5 2018, 10:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,684 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(injunmort @ Dec 5 2018, 11:42 AM) before tearing into yours trans. make sure all the shifter bushings are intact and if a side shifter the cone screw is tight. I have never bought a 914 that had good bushings. I always replace them first. Thanks - still need to add oil and run it before doing anything. I have replacement coupler bits in hand for the exact reason you mention. Thanks! |
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| Dr Evil |
Dec 6 2018, 09:31 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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And yet people still manage to ship full transmissions to me for rebuild (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Messy bastards!
Lube, bushings, mount check, proceed to drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Morph914 |
Dec 6 2018, 10:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 22-August 16 From: St Augustine, FL Member No.: 20,326 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Dec 6 2018, 10:31 AM) And yet people still manage to ship full transmissions to me for rebuild (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Messy bastards! Lube, bushings, mount check, proceed to drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What is the minimum I should do to my side shift trans while it is out? I'm in the middle of a full restoration and I did not drive the car before disassembly started. So I have no knowledge about this trans. I would love to attend one of your classes if I get the chance. Are there any scheduled for the southeast? Thank you, John   |
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| Tdskip |
Dec 6 2018, 08:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,684 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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John -I’d recommend starting a new thread and asking.
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| Larmo63 |
Dec 6 2018, 09:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
I think John should ask Ima Dope for advice.
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| Tdskip |
Dec 7 2018, 10:29 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,684 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Dec 6 2018, 10:30 PM) I think John should ask Ima Dope for advice. LOL. Step one - check for oil Step two - find someone smarter to ask for help |
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| second wind |
Dec 7 2018, 11:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 849 Joined: 30-December 10 From: Los Angeles, California Member No.: 12,543 Region Association: Southern California
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Seeing someone taking responsibility is so rare these days.....please someone take a picture of this thread to show/prove that character and integrity still exists.....
all the best, gg |
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| Tdskip |
Dec 8 2018, 10:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,684 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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Good morning. Just to close this out I added oil yesterday, and it turns out the gearbox was about 1/2 full.
I adjusted the shift linkage iand between that and being properly topped off my transmission is quiet and the shift action is entirely workable. Thanks to Gabe amd Monte for the help, and everyone here for the encouragement and shared experiences. Motor on my friends... |
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