914/6 conversion, parting a 1970 911t |
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914/6 conversion, parting a 1970 911t |
injunmort |
Jul 19 2019, 09:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
I have a solid 1974 914 tub and a very rusty 1970 911t. I don't want to repair the 911 and would like to do a /6 conversion on the 1974 tub. obviously, I need the engine out of the 911, but what else should I salvage for conversion? the 911 runs sort of, it has a sporto in it now, do I need to block off converter pump on engine ( will be using sideshift 901), do any of the oil lines/filter console etc transfer? thanks.
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mepstein |
Jul 19 2019, 10:11 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,234 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Remove everything from the 911. Sort out the parts later.
I know you once sent me some pics of the 911. Please send them again to Mark@MarkEpstein.net Thanks |
Jonathan Livesay |
Jul 19 2019, 10:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 740 Joined: 13-March 10 From: La Canada CA Member No.: 11,461 Region Association: None |
Given what long hood 911's are fetching today would it be better to sell it and use the money for the conversion parts? Seems like you could finance a better motor and a lot of the conversion parts with what a "restore-able" (as Beverly Hills Car Club would call it) 911. Like this fine example! https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1973.5-...arga-c-9892.htm
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jul 19 2019, 10:38 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,814 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
TOTALLY agree!!!!!!!!!
someone will want to restore that 911 and save it, let them and do not part it. A sportomatic 1970 just sold for over 64,000 and was not that nice Given what long hood 911's are fetching today would it be better to sell it and use the money for the conversion parts? Seems like you could finance a better motor and a lot of the conversion parts with what a "restore-able" (as Beverly Hills Car Club would call it) 911. Like this fine example! https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1973.5-...arga-c-9892.htm |
injunmort |
Jul 19 2019, 10:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
will send pics again. after much deliberation, I don't think the 911 is worth the money or effort to restore. tried selling it as (16k) is and did not get interest at what I thought it was worth to me for conversion. besides, I am a 914 guy not a 911 guy. I have papers for both but the 911 needs attention to the torque tubes and is more work than I have desire. I have been collecting parts for conversion and at the point of breaking the 911 down.
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mepstein |
Jul 19 2019, 01:14 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,234 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Problem is you would spend twice the cost of a decent running car to restore this one even if the chassis was free. Restoring a rusty shell and buying every part, piece by piece is the absolutely most expensive way to own a 911.
The real 914-6 that Saigon is helping to sell is a complete car in decent condition and people are still balking at the cost to restore. Unlike a 914, there is no cheap source of parts and sheet metal for a 911. The 912 train left the station for that opportunity. |
peteyd |
Jul 19 2019, 01:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 27-March 08 From: Elora, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,858 Region Association: Canada |
hold on to the 911. You will be able to buy a nearly complete chassis in 3-5 years
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mepstein |
Jul 19 2019, 01:38 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,234 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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injunmort |
Jul 19 2019, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
I think I am being misunderstood. the 911 IS a donor car for a /6 conversion. I tried to sell it for what I deem a fair price to be restored and got no takers (ebay, craigslist, early 911 registry). I plan to part it out after I take what I need for conversion, suspension, brake system, gauges, oiling system. the rest I would like to sell together, interior glass, tub with title, to make some room. it would be a platform for outlaw build or good donor for a restoration. I don't want to restore a 911, I want a /6 conversion. what else should I take?
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mb911 |
Jul 19 2019, 04:54 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,802 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
That should do but note that none of the oil system will work other then the oil filter console which new is about 200.. Keep me in mind when you get rid of the roller it Maybe something I would tackle some day..
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GeorgeRud |
Jul 20 2019, 02:41 PM
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The front suspension will bolt onto the 914 so you can go to 5 lug wheels. I’d also grab the rear stub axles to swap to 5 lug wheels (though the actual axles are too short). The gauges should swap over, as will the engine obviously. Ben (mb911) makes most of the bits you will need for the conversion. It’s a great, rewarding project that you’ll love to drive when finished.
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mb911 |
Jul 20 2019, 03:31 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,802 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The front suspension will bolt onto the 914 so you can go to 5 lug wheels. I’d also grab the rear stub axles to swap to 5 lug wheels (though the actual axles are too short). The gauges should swap over, as will the engine obviously. Ben (mb911) makes most of the bits you will need for the conversion. It’s a great, rewarding project that you’ll love to drive when finished. I sense a trade potential. |
injunmort |
Jul 20 2019, 05:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
thank you for info. the axles are not the same length, what do I use for drive shafts
/ already have mb's tins |
Larmo63 |
Jul 20 2019, 05:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Unobtanium might take the leftovers? He is up in your area.
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mepstein |
Jul 20 2019, 05:28 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,234 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
thank you for info. the axles are not the same length, what do I use for drive shafts / already have mb's tins Per Eric Shea - "proper 914 axle length - 20.25". Then the 911 spline count - 28. Then a call to Sway-a-Way... yup, part number 2420. They run ~$320 pair. Eric thread is the best explanation out there. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=91963 Since you have a sportomatic trans, you will need different trans stubs - 911 Tranny Flanges (901, 911 or early 915 transmissions) |
peteyd |
Jul 24 2019, 06:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 27-March 08 From: Elora, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,858 Region Association: Canada |
hold on to the 911. You will be able to buy a nearly complete chassis in 3-5 years I’m not following. You can’t switch the vin over to another chassis and even though every piece will be made new, it still cost $$$$ to restore a rusty car. You can’t stamp a new VIN, but a car can be built around a VIN panel. Porsche has no problems with this. Pete |
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