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> Driven Oil, For Aircooled engines
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post Aug 21 2019, 05:29 PM
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post Aug 21 2019, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(BENBRO02 @ Aug 21 2019, 04:29 PM) *

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If it’s DT50, that’s what I use in my 4 cyl 914. In back to back drives my oil temp was 20F lower on DT50 than Brad Penn green oil. Kinda pricey but I only change oil once a year.
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post Aug 21 2019, 09:25 PM
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Have been using it in our 993. Still using what Brad Penn I have left in the 914's.
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post Aug 21 2019, 09:40 PM
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Yep, It was developed under my roof, back in 2009.. The first generation of it had my seal on the bottle, and it earned it.
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post Aug 21 2019, 11:18 PM
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So what makes it better? Can you give is a breakdown of the advantages?
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post Aug 22 2019, 05:09 AM
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It's formulated specifically for air cooled engines
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post Aug 22 2019, 01:44 PM
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It is great oil. Use in my NA and turbo air cools. As Raby stated, his group put the oil through the wringer and they endorse it for their builds.
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post Aug 23 2019, 08:25 AM
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Any issue with going from Dino/regular to synthetic, especially higher mileage engines? There was considerable increase in oil leaks when I switched to synthetic in my ‘82 Mercedes Diesel.

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post Aug 23 2019, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(mangrum @ Aug 23 2019, 07:25 AM) *

Any issue with going from Dino/regular to synthetic, especially higher mileage engines? There was considerable increase in oil leaks when I switched to synthetic in my ‘82 Mercedes Diesel.

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Curious to see what Jake has to say about this, as I remember trying to switch to synthetic years (many years) ago on a very tired Type IV and the leaks seemed to 10x themselves. Was like a sieve.

Driven Oil looks very interesting. Curious, also, for Jake's take on Michael's observation of 20° F cooler on this oil. I've been contemplating a small external oil cooler out back, as my engine has seen 215° F from time to time, usually on the freeway.
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post Aug 23 2019, 10:14 AM
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It's formulated specifically for air cooled engines



Sorry but this is a marketing statement, I need actual details.
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post Aug 23 2019, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Aug 23 2019, 10:12 AM) *

QUOTE(mangrum @ Aug 23 2019, 07:25 AM) *

Any issue with going from Dino/regular to synthetic, especially higher mileage engines? There was considerable increase in oil leaks when I switched to synthetic in my ‘82 Mercedes Diesel.

Thanks,
Mike


Curious to see what Jake has to say about this, as I remember trying to switch to synthetic years (many years) ago on a very tired Type IV and the leaks seemed to 10x themselves. Was like a sieve.

Driven Oil looks very interesting. Curious, also, for Jake's take on Michael's observation of 20° F cooler on this oil. I've been contemplating a small external oil cooler out back, as my engine has seen 215° F from time to time, usually on the freeway.

I agree 100%...if this reduces my oil temp by 20 degrees then I'm all in....
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post Aug 23 2019, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Aug 21 2019, 11:40 PM) *

Yep, It was developed under my roof, back in 2009.. The first generation of it had my seal on the bottle, and it earned it.

Thanks Jake, my mechanic recommended it and with your endorsement I know it must be good.
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post Aug 23 2019, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Chi-town @ Aug 23 2019, 11:14 AM) *

QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Aug 22 2019, 04:09 AM) *

It's formulated specifically for air cooled engines



Sorry but this is a marketing statement, I need actual details.

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post Aug 23 2019, 12:12 PM
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What about the High Zinc thing. I’m about to change my oil this weekend with the Driven conventional oil with High Zinc. Is this synthetic better??
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post Aug 23 2019, 12:18 PM
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Technically, I think it is ZDDP:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_dithiophosphate

Used to be in most oils, banned by EPA except for special oils, protects older cams, lifters, pushrods, etc. that were not as hardened as today. Use Brad Penn in all my old motorcycles to make them last...

This has to be great stuff.......

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post Aug 23 2019, 01:44 PM
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Most "racing" oils have ZDDP levels higher than the oils back before emissions got involved.

Driven Racing Oil used to be Joe Gibbs Racing oil
It's custom made by Lubrizol
https://www.lubrizol.com/Lubricant-and-Fuel-Additives

Looks like their formulations lack the normal detergents in the additive package (who doesn't like deposits in their engines? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif))
Loaded with ZDDP

Unless someone independent of Jake or Driven wants to run it and then send it out for analysis after 3k miles

I would not consider this a street oil, racing would be fine due to frequent changes and engine refreshes.
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post Aug 23 2019, 01:56 PM
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Known "good" oils are Brad Penn PennGrade 1 and Driven DT50. I think I read that Driven GP1 is Brad Penn base with Driven additive package. Likely to be good as well.
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post Aug 23 2019, 03:00 PM
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I got the Driven HR-5 conventional. Is it an acceptable choice for street use?
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Street oils have different additive packages than race oils because they are for different proposes and the engines are not serviced as often.

Things like detergents and friction modifiers in street oil are built around longevity (thousands of miles) not race capability (few hundred miles).

The amount of these additives and which ones are based on data collection, years of research, and real world testing.

I'm not saying Driven oil isn't good, just saying it may not be the best choice for street cars.
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post Aug 24 2019, 05:56 AM
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I used DT 50 for the last eight years of owning a 98 993. And use Driven DT40 in my 2007 Cayman and will use DT50 again when my 914-6 GT Tribute is done. Best, Mark
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