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Brake Fluid Flood at Pedal Cluster |
CoronaMike |
Mar 22 2020, 03:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 11-February 19 From: Maryville, TN Member No.: 22,868 Region Association: South East States |
Hi y'all,
So, in the final stages of getting my car back on the road and was bleeding my brakes. Then i started seeing my footprints around the garage and I couldn't figure out why... turns out the carpet was soaked with brake fluid! Does anyone know what's going on - AND - Is there any way to fix this withOUT taking the pedal cluster out? (one of my least favorite things in life to do) Or should I just bite the bullet - pull the pedals and the master cylinder...(my second least favorite). Thanks!!! mike |
914forme |
Mar 22 2020, 03:19 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
master cylinder leak
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ctc911ctc |
Mar 22 2020, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 917 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Pressure Bleed?
If so, perhaps gaskets on the top of the MC? I am in the middle of this now - my leak was at the gaskets CARPET in your Garage!!!! That is one clean car! Hi y'all, So, in the final stages of getting my car back on the road and was bleeding my brakes. Then i started seeing my footprints around the garage and I couldn't figure out why... turns out the carpet was soaked with brake fluid! Does anyone know what's going on - AND - Is there any way to fix this withOUT taking the pedal cluster out? (one of my least favorite things in life to do) Or should I just bite the bullet - pull the pedals and the master cylinder...(my second least favorite). Thanks!!! mike |
iankarr |
Mar 22 2020, 03:28 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,512 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Yep. Sounds like a leaky MC. When you replace it, make sure the pushrod gap is within spec. IIRC it's adjust till contact, then back off a turn. Please correct me if my brain has cramped.
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CoronaMike |
Mar 22 2020, 03:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 11-February 19 From: Maryville, TN Member No.: 22,868 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks guys!
Any reviews on the 914 Rubber 19mm master cylinder? ps - the carpet (in the car was soaked) not in the garage....the garage carpet is still nice and white.....(jk...the garage isn't carpeted) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
ctc911ctc |
Mar 22 2020, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 917 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
I have the 19mm, no problems with it.
I replaced the washer in the fast install kit that I ordered with it - I like washers that do not move (they selected rubber rings which - IMHO - are too pliable) Thanks guys! Any reviews on the 914 Rubber 19mm master cylinder? ps - the carpet (in the car was soaked) not in the garage....the garage carpet is still nice and white.....(jk...the garage isn't carpeted) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
ctc911ctc |
Mar 22 2020, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 917 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
I have the 19mm, no problems with it.
I replaced the washer in the fast install kit that I ordered with it - I like washers that do not move (they selected rubber rings which - IMHO - are too pliable) Thanks guys! Any reviews on the 914 Rubber 19mm master cylinder? ps - the carpet (in the car was soaked) not in the garage....the garage carpet is still nice and white.....(jk...the garage isn't carpeted) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
iankarr |
Mar 22 2020, 04:07 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,512 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Loving mine. I did an installation video in case you're curious about it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6ZHK5f_9bE |
mobymutt |
Mar 22 2020, 04:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
Thanks guys! Any reviews on the 914 Rubber 19mm master cylinder? ps - the carpet (in the car was soaked) not in the garage....the garage carpet is still nice and white.....(jk...the garage isn't carpeted) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I installed the 914 Rubber one, it went in fine and works great! |
CoronaMike |
Mar 22 2020, 04:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 11-February 19 From: Maryville, TN Member No.: 22,868 Region Association: South East States |
Loving mine. I did an installation video in case you're curious about it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6ZHK5f_9bE I just watched it actually - thanks! I also saw your bleeding the master cylinder video. Were you ever going to make a bleeding the rest of the brakes video? Or is it pretty much the same as the master cylinder video - just on the rest of the wheels? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
BK911 |
Mar 22 2020, 04:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 672 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Rocky Top, TN Member No.: 1,674 Region Association: None |
If you're going to pressure bleed the brakes, no need to bench bleed the MC. Much easier to install dry.
If for some reason you insist on bleeding the MC, you can do it installed instead of on the bench. That's what I do on cars that I don't have an adapter for the MC reservoir. After bleeding the MC, use a 2*4 (or whatever) to hold down brake pedal. Put a few paper towels under MC, then remove bleed lines and connect brake lines. With pedal depressed only a few drops of fluid will fall when swapping lines. |
Spoke |
Mar 22 2020, 05:06 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 7,052 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Not sure why bleeding brakes would cause the MC to leak. I assume you were pumping the brakes to bleed? If so, did you push all the way to the floor?
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mepstein |
Mar 22 2020, 06:02 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I remember pulling into my garage and slowing to a stop at the last foot before I would have hit my wall. Found fluid on the floor of the car. Brakes worked fine until they didn't.
The fluid can also damage the plastic bushings on the brake pedal. They swell and get tight. |
PanelBilly |
Mar 22 2020, 06:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,840 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I’d pull out the carpet and clean up the floor pans and cluster. The fluid eats paint.
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anderssj |
Mar 22 2020, 07:45 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,689 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Also check for brake fluid inside the shift tunnel...it spills out of the side of the pedal cluster and runs back into the tunnel. BTDT. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) |
euro911 |
Mar 22 2020, 08:11 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,855 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
I’d pull out the carpet and clean up the floor pans and cluster. The fluid eats paint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I was just getting ready to post the same thing.Pull the whole pedal assembly because guaranteed there's fluid underneath it. You don't want your car to rust any faster than it already does normally (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
DRPHIL914 |
Mar 22 2020, 08:55 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,808 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
I’d pull out the carpet and clean up the floor pans and cluster. The fluid eats paint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I was just getting ready to post the same thing.Pull the whole pedal assembly because guaranteed there's fluid underneath it. You don't want your car to rust any faster than it already does normally (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) this happened to me back about 3 months ago, wet under pedals. no leaks since i installed this rebuilt one about 6 years ago, but just my second drive out after i came back from Okteenerfest, and i noticed fluid under the car as i backed out. anyway i could smell it too, in the car, paint under the car where it was seeping thru floor pan was coming off. anyway i pulled the pedal cluster to clean it off, and the floor etc too. i also replaced it with the 19mm from 914rubber and very happy with it. phil |
CoronaMike |
Mar 22 2020, 09:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 11-February 19 From: Maryville, TN Member No.: 22,868 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for all the replies! New 19mm MC is on the way.
Not looking forward to the job - BUT.... shelter in place, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
iankarr |
Mar 22 2020, 09:32 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,512 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Loving mine. I did an installation video in case you're curious about it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6ZHK5f_9bE I just watched it actually - thanks! I also saw your bleeding the master cylinder video. Were you ever going to make a bleeding the rest of the brakes video? Or is it pretty much the same as the master cylinder video - just on the rest of the wheels? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Actually, that's the next one up! Should be posted in the next day or so. |
CoronaMike |
Mar 22 2020, 10:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 11-February 19 From: Maryville, TN Member No.: 22,868 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE Actually, that's the next one up! Should be posted in the next day or so. Just in time! Thanks Ian, love your vids. m |
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