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> If you have a 3.2 L Build would you still drive a 2 L or 1.7 L car in the garage?
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post Aug 1 2020, 08:08 AM
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Asking for a friend, this is a kind of ridiculous question given what’s going on in the world ....

Let’s imagine that this person had a civilized 3.2 L build, good manners and not high strong or overly jittery. Let us further imagine that this person also had a similarly civilized to your car and 1.7 L car, and just to make this a bit more apples to apples that those were also decent street cars that had good manners and we’re not overly tuned or jittery. Basically let’s assume that all three have stock interiors and shift decently and compliance suspensions etc. last assumption is that they all have a similar body condition so basically removing the variables except engine.

I know that a couple people here have multiple cars so there may be some first-hand experience with this question, but yes, trying to figure out if my 1973 1.7l and/or 2.0L car will end up sitting idle once the 3.2L is up and running.

Thanks in advance for the thoughts and hope everybody had a good week .
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post Aug 1 2020, 08:38 AM
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Your going to get lots of options on this, personally I could never go back. In fact I am already looking for more power........Must be the Hot Rodder in me.
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post Aug 1 2020, 08:40 AM
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I own a 74 2.0 & a 70 six w/ a 77 2.7 911S engine. The six is faster but the four is very noticeably lighter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Aug 1 2020, 08:43 AM
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Type 4 sale
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post Aug 1 2020, 09:41 AM
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Well, there is a good chance that one will always be broken. Having two ensures you have a good one to go! Maybe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) My 2.3 four cylinder has been rock solid for years and years, knock on wood. My street legal 3.0 six track car (250 hp) has required quite a bit more tinkering. I can't make a direct comparison since my track car does not have the ability to roll up windows, nor a spare tire. So I don't like going far in the car, or being too far away from it when parked. I will have to say in a narrow body car with 205s you do not want too much horsepower. At some point it will likely get away from you. My six has always been flared with sticky 225s on 8" rims on the rear. Maybe around 200 horsepower is a good target.
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post Aug 1 2020, 09:58 AM
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Thanks for the thoughts.

I do really like the lightness of the 1.7 but I’m thinking the soon to be usable 912 may cover that. They do remind me of each other to drive.
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post Aug 1 2020, 09:59 AM
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Never... 200hp minimum for me.
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post Aug 1 2020, 10:05 AM
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While I am about to start the journey from a 4 to a 6, I did have a 4 in my 77 911 and I could not wait to get a flat 6 back into it. Maybe if the 4 was a big HP then I would have to think about it, but the 6 vs the 4 in my 911 I would never go back. Now, in the same token I did have a 2.0 in my 74 and had it not been overheating and me not have a spare 6 cyl I probably would have just fixed and reinstalled the 2.0 or even a 2056 and left it as is.
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:21 AM
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I have both (see below) with the 2.0L and 3.2L motors not far from stock. Both are narrow bodied 1974s, look basically stock, and neither are daily drivers. I have no particular preference and drive and work on both about equally. Different personalities and joys to them. The "sleeper" 3.2 with a 915/916 transaxle definitely has more power and makes music in my ears (no radio) but the 2.0L does have a more nimble go-kart like feel to it. I call it "slingability". If I had to sell one, the 3.2L would probably go first.
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:22 AM
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Think about it . circa 1970s daily commute , grocery getter the 1.7 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Modern day same truth still applies . if you want the car for pleasure ... A 3.2 with that 11blade fan spinning is more for pleasure ( no replacement for displacement) . but you dont really need all that for going to walgreens or a breakfeast joint .

1.7 is the most user friendly platform in a mid engine cars . does just about everything well . 1st timers can handle its quirkyness and good drivers can make it hum



3.2 . you always need to be prepared to stop quickly and its just a hassel constantly trying to stay under 100mph (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) 3.2 in the wrong hands = widow maker
1.7 in the wrong hands ....pretty harmless


And maintence cost /6 vs 4 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) i think you already know how that turns out
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:27 AM
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Drove my 1.8l for 4 years before I put a 3.2l in it....would never go back. The power and quickness just always makes me smile.
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:46 AM
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Variety is the spice of life.

Motorcyle analogy.

I have a 1998 Superhawk996 (obsolete by modern standards) that is 100 HP. More than enough to get me in trouble with the law. Fun wheelie machine. Handles reasonably well. Comfortable to ride on the street unlike my 600 CBR that I used to race.

I also have a 1964 Honda Dream 250cc that maybe makes 20HP on a good day. Riding it takes lots of advance thinking (drum brakes suck!) but it takes you back to a different time when life seemed simpler.

Both are a joy to ride but for completely different reasons.

I've found the same to be true of cars.

Performance EV's have their merits. You can't touch that kind brutal acceleration with an ICE engine (short of track only drag cars) but they lack soul.

A flat six screaming with fan noises, induction, and exhaust has soul but can't touch a modern performance EV for raw acceleration.

Which one you drive depends entirely on what sort of mood you're in and what the task at hand is; Grocery getting vs. performance driving.

So although I'm not lucky enough to have both a 3.2L teener and a 1.7L in the garage - I can honestly say I would drive both and could enjoy each for what it is.
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:54 AM
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I had a 3.2..... the very vest..... until something would go wrong with it. Then, it's like performing brain surgery to fix it.

Had a stock 1.7...... weaker than anything on earth, but I miss it. It puuuurrrrred.

Now drive a 2056, and it's perfect for me.

My advice? Don't ever..... EVER drive a 3.2. Once you do, nothing will be the same.
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QUOTE(BuddyV @ Aug 1 2020, 10:54 AM) *

I had a 3.2..... the very vest..... until something would go wrong with it. Then, it's like performing brain surgery to fix it.

Had a stock 1.7...... weaker than anything on earth, but I miss it. It puuuurrrrred.

Now drive a 2056, and it's perfect for me.

My advice? Don't ever..... EVER drive a 3.2. Once you do, nothing will be the same.





Just like dont ever date a pliates instructor
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Something go's wrong . its hard to fill the void (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

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post Aug 1 2020, 01:35 PM
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Great discussion gentlemen, appreciate the feedback.
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post Aug 1 2020, 02:08 PM
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How many people are unhappy with a six and go back to a four?

The sixes take a fun car and add an iconic engine. It's a match made in heaven.

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post Aug 1 2020, 03:22 PM
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I wish I had this problem to worry about!
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post Aug 1 2020, 04:12 PM
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We have a /4, a stock /6 and a big /6 with mega HP.

Each has it's quirks and strengths. The big six is great for hauling @ss, but it has a heavy clutch, so rush hour traffic is a bitch. The factory six is a mellow car, it doesn't compare with the /4 for drivability or comfort (AC vs no AC on the six). I like the /4 when running to the store, and we use it for the grocery runs. (I miss the little orange monster.... I hope he is back home soon.)


Each is different, and each is fun in its own way. They are all 914s, but they are all different. And I love driving them all!

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QUOTE(Tbrown4x4 @ Aug 1 2020, 02:22 PM) *

I wish I had this problem to worry about!


Haha! I had to wait till retirement. Now wondering when I'll no longer be able to get into them.
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 1 2020, 03:08 PM) *

How many people are unhappy with a six and go back to a four?



That’s good perspective.
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