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What Have I Done, Hello, I'd like to introduce myself |
mteovr |
Feb 16 2021, 04:48 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23-January 21 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 25,115 Region Association: Southern California |
Hello 914World -
This is Michael, also known as "That naive guy who bought a Porsche 914 project car to bring back to life while documenting the process on YouTube and HotCars.com." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3nypC_odI&t=27s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3nypC_odI I've been lurking here on 914World for about a month since I bought the pile of parts. Happy to find so much knowledge and camaraderie, you've already provided me with optimism and inspiration in spades. As you can see from the video and some of my articles, if you feel inclined to take a look, I clearly need professional help. And I mean both mechanically and psychologically, which is why I'm hoping to rely on the similarly afflicted fans of Porsche's maligned mid-engined masterpiece. All alliteration aside (or not), glad to be here and please stop me if I'm doing something wrong before I hurt myself or others! Thanks |
Superhawk996 |
Feb 16 2021, 05:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,748 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
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The good news is that you have a hoist. You're also working basically outdoors in sunny CA. Car is reasonably rust free. Things could be a whole lot worse. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
ndfrigi |
Feb 16 2021, 05:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,928 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
Welcome to 914world. Sorry replied to your youtube and mentioned 914world which you are already registered here.
For sure you will get a lots of help here. |
Cairo94507 |
Feb 16 2021, 05:25 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,713 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) That looks like a pretty nice car to start with. I think I would leave it on the lift and hose that thing down with Simple Green or some other degreaser and then agitate with a brush and spray it down again and then use a power washer to get as much crud as possible off then re-assess the chassis. But overall you seem to be pretty familiar with these cars, save for a couple items.
Definitely make sure the chassis is solid and any rust you may find is addressed before anything else is done. Keep posting pics/videos and people will be glad to make recommendations. No shortage of opinions on this site. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
mark04usa |
Feb 16 2021, 05:30 PM
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'70 1.7 Tangerine Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 14-September 09 From: Austin TX Member No.: 10,805 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Enjoyed your video. Looks like a good solid car so far.
"WS washer reservoir" is shift linkage cover at firewall. Horn contact is missing, and the rubber horn spring is perished. Looks like Koni shocks in rear...front shocks leaking... Lots to do for a very worthy car. |
Jonathan Livesay |
Feb 16 2021, 05:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 740 Joined: 13-March 10 From: La Canada CA Member No.: 11,461 Region Association: None |
Hello 914World - This is Michael, also known as "That naive guy who bought a Porsche 914 project car to bring back to life while documenting the process on YouTube and HotCars.com." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3nypC_odI&t=27s I've been lurking here on 914World for about a month since I bought the pile of parts. Happy to find so much knowledge and camaraderie, you've already provided me with optimism and inspiration in spades. As you can see from the video and some of my articles, if you feel inclined to take a look, I clearly need professional help. And I mean both mechanically and psychologically, which is why I'm hoping to rely on the similarly afflicted fans of Porsche's maligned mid-engined masterpiece. All alliteration aside (or not), glad to be here and please stop me if I'm doing something wrong before I hurt myself or others! Thanks If nobody else told you yet that other motor crossbar is what you need if you go with the sideshift trans. Also a different shift linkage from lever to trans. some of which it looks like came with the newer trans. If you're going to be working under the car on the lift I would pull those drive axles out otherwise you will for sure hit your head on one at some point, ask me how I know. If you are going to roll it around much or tow it anywhere take the stub axles off the ends of the axles and push them through the hubs, without them the wheels are only held on by the wheelbearings. Where in LA are you? |
mepstein |
Feb 16 2021, 06:02 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Coondog |
Feb 16 2021, 06:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California |
Did you shoot that video at Vince's shop in Hesperia ?
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ValcoOscar |
Feb 16 2021, 06:10 PM
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Garage Life Group: Members Posts: 2,374 Joined: 19-November 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,669 Region Association: Southern California |
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Great start, gave your video (IMG:style_emoticons/default/14.gif) Keep up the momentum (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) O |
iankarr |
Feb 16 2021, 06:52 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,471 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
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Fun video! Subscribed and looking forward to your adventures. Welcome to the addiction. Seriously. Just wait! |
bandjoey |
Feb 16 2021, 07:31 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,923 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
looks like the interior cabin light is one of the most sought after parts on the 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) White switch and chrome
Overall a good project car looks like Will enjoy following. |
bkrantz |
Feb 16 2021, 08:49 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,732 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You car looks pretty good. Welcome to the asylum.
Oh, and nice color! |
bbrock |
Feb 16 2021, 08:58 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Love the video. You say the car looks rough, I see a dream project car. Nice! A couple things. You need to pull the rocker cover panels off before you can declare victory over any major rust issues but so far it looks really clean. Also, the floor pans are covered with tar mats that can hide rust. You'll need to remove that tar before you know if the floor is truly rust free. Again, looking at the bottom, I think you are in great shape. Finally, those bondo bubbles are little pieces of history. Common body repair practice in the 70s and 80s was to swiss cheese panels full of holes so the bondo would "key" in. It is a nightmare for future rust problems and loads of fun to weld all those holes shut. I lost count how many I welded up on my car.
Looking forward to seeing this progress (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) |
Charles Freeborn |
Feb 16 2021, 09:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 21-May 14 From: United States Member No.: 17,377 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Good solid core car. Form a strategy based on money then break it down by priority and category (looks, performance, etc)
Send all the calipers to PMB, get in touch with 914 Rubber for all the trim and some of the mechanical bits, the trans to Dr. Evil and consider having the engine work done by European Motorworks. For your first one it's best to have the core mechanicals done by a pro and follow along. Then, after you've seen how they work tackle one on your own. Your biggest engine decision is going to be if you stick with the 4 bolt heads or drop the cash for 3 bolt 2.0 type. You've already got the carbs, so with 3 bolt heads, a decent cam and fresh p/c's you'll have a nice runner. |
mteovr |
Feb 17 2021, 10:47 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23-January 21 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 25,115 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks all for the comments and advice already!
Since I filmed the vid, have done much more internet sleuthing, deduced the extra engine crossbar is for the side-shift conversion, and already planning to have the calipers rebuilt by PMB. Placed a few orders with 914Rubber for interior and bushings and etcs, planning to have the motor and side-shift trans rebuilt by pros, especially as unsure what all is going on in there and absolutely zero records from previous owner. @Charles Freeborn - excellent to learn about European Motorworks, will contact them immediately. My priority is getting the mechanicals sorted balancing between budget and performance as much as possible. Then move on to cosmetics and correctness over time. For the engine rebuild, had been previously debating Brothers VW Machine Shop in Ontario or BajaWorx in Yucca Valley. For transaxle was planning to drive it down to California Motorsports in Havasu. Trying to keep it as local as possible, but do you know where Dr. Evil might be located? @mark04usa - great to know about the shift linkage cover and horn, have ordered new shocks all around, plus mounts, bushings, etc for the rear to get that done before the drivetrain returns. @Jonathan Livesay - already tugged out one of the axles in the vid. That was entirely unexpected, though, you shoulda seen my face! But good advice for the stubs, will get on that ASAP, thank you. @coondog - no, but I'm close to Hesperia and there's someone on Craigslist selling lots of 914 parts there, perhaps this is Vince? In the plans to get in touch. @bbrock - don't like the sound of that, uh oh! @all - the warm welcome helps a lot and please keep the advice coming. I'm an absolute amateur and this will no doubt take much longer and cost much more than expected, so anything and everything that can save me headaches is greatly appreciated. |
bbrock |
Feb 17 2021, 10:55 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ha! I wouldn't lose any sleep. So far the car looks fantastic and if you had major repair work to do, it would already be obvious. My prediction is the worst you are likely to find on that car is maybe a jack point or two to repair or replace (no big deal) and a few spots of rust bubbling under the floor tar that can be treated and sealed before they grow into a larger problem. If it was already bad, I think you'd be seeing some evidence on the bottom side. One other thing from your vid. Those positive battery cables are actually stock. They are the power supplies for the main harness. You are missing the large positive cable with traditional lead clamp from battery to starter. Those mystery cables bolt to the side of the lead clamp via a little terminal block. 914Rubber sells repros of the block. You should be dancing a jig for having a 914 that solid to work on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
PanelBilly |
Feb 17 2021, 11:40 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,797 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You've got a great car for starting a restoration. There's work to be done and a fair amount of checks to write, but the core car looks great to me. Its too bad that its already been taken apart and you don't have the benefit of seeing how things originally fit, but there's plenty of photos on this site to help guide the assembly. Take a close look at the sail panels where they meet the body for rust. Little bubbles on the outside are likely larger rust areas on the inside. You need to look up from the wheelwell and its a bit tight, but with a good light you should be able to check it out
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Mikey914 |
Feb 17 2021, 11:53 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Looks pretty rust free. That will cut your restoration time and cost in half. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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mteovr |
Feb 17 2021, 05:42 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23-January 21 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 25,115 Region Association: Southern California |
Ha! I wouldn't lose any sleep. So far the car looks fantastic and if you had major repair work to do, it would already be obvious. My prediction is the worst you are likely to find on that car is maybe a jack point or two to repair or replace (no big deal) and a few spots of rust bubbling under the floor tar that can be treated and sealed before they grow into a larger problem. If it was already bad, I think you'd be seeing some evidence on the bottom side. One other thing from your vid. Those positive battery cables are actually stock. They are the power supplies for the main harness. You are missing the large positive cable with traditional lead clamp from battery to starter. Those mystery cables bolt to the side of the lead clamp via a little terminal block. 914Rubber sells repros of the block. You should be dancing a jig for having a 914 that solid to work on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) The jack points are obviously hard to show when the car's up on the lift but amazingly, they're all pretty pristine. It's truly wild how some things on the car are in great shape and some aren't. The battery cables and block/clamp unit could very well be in the parts pile somewhere, will have to scour the web for what they actually look like. So far a perfunctory Googling doesn't ring any bells. But can't trust my memory... Also, any advice on a solvent for the floor mat tar? Or just a good scrubbing? @all - I'm keeping every and all suggestions as a list in a spreadsheet, so please, keep 'em coming! |
mteovr |
Feb 17 2021, 05:45 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23-January 21 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 25,115 Region Association: Southern California |
Oh, and I split time between Santa Monica and the high desert near Pearblossom...
Which will only contribute to extensive confusion, work delays, and my typical pastime of hoarding parts bought online and then installing in bunches. Oh boy. |
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