 Fiberglass on a Street Car ?, done all the time or just insanity ? both ? |
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| bkrantz |
 Dec 16 2021, 09:01 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 8,142 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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QUOTE(NARP74 @ Dec 16 2021, 04:08 PM)  Quick detour... great job 914 Rubber for always looking ahead, congrats! And those are some scary nails on the hand model! WOW. And that's a beautiful 6! OK, back on track... Hey, I think Mark can wear his nails any way he likes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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| bkrantz |
Dec 16 2021, 09:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,142 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE(slivel @ Dec 16 2021, 12:51 PM) Mine is all glass except for the doors. Steve, that's a beautiful car. What is the weight? |
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| infraredcalvin |
Dec 16 2021, 09:10 PM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,571 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California
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FG hoods and bumpers. Cage and super stiff suspension makes it track oriented, but it is “street legal” and I run it to work or to C&C.
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| Dave_Darling |
Dec 16 2021, 11:55 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,060 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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FG has potential issues for street use. It does like to crack, especially where it is bonded to sheet metal. That can be dealt with to some extent, but I'm not sure if the tendency will ever be completely removed. And things like rock chips can cause more serious problems than just cracked paint.
It isn't very strong, and doesn't dissipate much if any energy in a crash. It tends to shatter rather than bending, after all. I believe that the outer fenders and both deck lids contribute some to crash protection on our cars, so you will be losing some if you replace those parts with FG. How much do they contribute? Probably not a huge amount--but some. You should try to make an educated guess about how much extra risk you are willing to live with. Myself, I probably would be OK with the lids replaced. Maybe fenders, maybe not. Not the door skins, though, as there's precious little side impact protection on a 914 as is. --DD |
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| emerygt350 |
Dec 17 2021, 06:42 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,482 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
I don't know about you, but I could easily lose (well, maybe not easily) the weight I would save using a light hood and trunk lid by just eating healthier....
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| Shivers |
Dec 17 2021, 07:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,780 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
Wrong car right topic...1963 vw bug, glass fenders with front and rear glass lids. Less than a year as a street car DD all the glass was cracked by parking lot pirates.
My 72 teener has been hit repeated times. Mostly from parking in the street. Not to mention the fact that the rear trunk area looks like a park bench I guess, had to chase people off of it. How rude. Steel is real |
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| rgalla9146 |
Dec 17 2021, 07:20 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,650 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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'75 chassis, aluminum 2.0 6 cyl. FG lids and bumpers. 2125 lbs.
Late doors with beams. Steel flares. Soon to have ~250 hp 3.0 so 8.5 power to weight. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| Literati914 |
Dec 17 2021, 12:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,733 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Ok, thanks everyone - I think if the FG parts that I have in the classifieds don't sell (at the practically give away price point that I have them set to), I'll consider using the front and rear hood skins, but skip using the door skins.
Great looking cars y'all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) . |
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| slivel |
Dec 17 2021, 12:51 PM
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Old car....... older driver Group: Members Posts: 514 Joined: 10-July 04 From: San Diego Member No.: 2,332 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(bkrantz @ Dec 16 2021, 07:02 PM) QUOTE(slivel @ Dec 16 2021, 12:51 PM) Mine is all glass except for the doors. Steve, that's a beautiful car. What is the weight? 2050 wet and without driver |
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| Root_Werks |
Dec 17 2021, 01:28 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,484 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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The shortest path for an insurance company to not cover a claim is to identify modified safety components.
A younger/dumber version of myself ran FG bumpers on a few 914's. Not anymore, not if I want to drive on the streets, leave parked on lots etc. |
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| slivel |
Dec 17 2021, 01:36 PM
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Old car....... older driver Group: Members Posts: 514 Joined: 10-July 04 From: San Diego Member No.: 2,332 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Dec 17 2021, 11:28 AM) The shortest path for an insurance company to not cover a claim is to identify modified safety components. A younger/dumber version of myself ran FG bumpers on a few 914's. Not anymore, not if I want to drive on the streets, leave parked on lots etc. Yes, you should confirm your policy coverage details and exclusions. My classic coverage requires me to assign a value and complete description of the car including photos. I have filed two claims over the years on my two classics (914 and 240Z) and both were processed to my satisfaction. |
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| Mikey914 |
Dec 17 2021, 01:36 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,736 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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Took a look at your advertisement in the classifieds. Yes at that price you are giving them away.
Some input on the deck lids. These were the same as the Sheridan ones. Just a skin. The way they were mounted was by welding flat tabs on and attaching with dzus screws. This is why we added the substructure. Also the lids without reinforcement are very flexable and har to cut and buff unless you do it off the car on a bean bag. They are however the lightest you can get. The set up you have is a track design and for a daily driver I'd pass. The time and money to do this would be more appreciated and cleaner to add displacement to the engine. A 2056 build would offer you a better power to weight upgrade (or at the very least be a wash) , that would be easier and retain more resale value for funds expended. |
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| infraredcalvin |
Dec 18 2021, 11:30 AM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,571 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Dec 17 2021, 11:28 AM) The shortest path for an insurance company to not cover a claim is to identify modified safety components. A younger/dumber version of myself ran FG bumpers on a few 914's. Not anymore, not if I want to drive on the streets, leave parked on lots etc. Or, list your mods when obtaining insurance in the first place. Yes it costs more, but at current 6 values it would be foolish not to. |
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