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> 914 GT 3.6 Ferrari Build, - Mechanicals coming along, electronics soon!
tygaboy
post Aug 12 2022, 11:05 AM
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Quick poll: Yikes! or Oh, YEAH!
Just look where that plenum is going to be!

I'm voting "Oh, Yeah!

I have an old engine lid I'm going to cut it so we'll know exactly what this thing will look like.


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post Aug 12 2022, 11:07 AM
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And before you get all excited and think you've done all the needed clearancing...

As Max said: "Missed it by THAT much!"


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post Aug 12 2022, 11:18 AM
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What's the angle on the drive shafts? I'd rather reshape the firewall a bit to make the front covers fit than moving everything even further back.

The less angle on a drive shaft, the better.
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post Aug 12 2022, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 12 2022, 10:18 AM) *

What's the angle on the drive shafts? I'd rather reshape the firewall a bit to make the front covers fit than moving everything even further back.

The less angle on a drive shaft, the better.
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@SirAndy The angle is WAY better than on my LS car. Nothing is finalized and forward is better for fitment of that trans mount, too. Still work to do, for sure.
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post Aug 12 2022, 12:38 PM
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Cut engine lid would look pretty rad. That idea gives me another. Have you settled on a name for the project? If not, might I suggest Roter Kopf as an homage to another car sharing similar attributes? I think it translates right, but @SirAndy may have a better translation on that one.

Looking forward to seeing this build at the next WCR! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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post Aug 12 2022, 01:09 PM
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Thanks to Robert @buddyv , I had this spare engine lid. A bit of measuring and cutting and... BAM! There it is! Not even going to obstruct rearward vision! As expected, the trunk is going to need some surgery but that'll wait until the rest of the intake is worked out.
But holy jeebus, this thing is going to be so cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
If you voted "Yikes" earlier, well, I'm sorry. You're wrong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Aug 12 2022, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Aug 12 2022, 12:09 PM) *

Thanks to Robert @buddyv , I had this spare engine lid. A bit of measuring and cutting and... BAM! There it is! Not even going to obstruct rearward vision! As expected, the trunk is going to need some surgery but that'll wait until the rest of the intake is worked out.
But holy jeebus, this thing is going to be so cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
If you voted "Yikes" earlier, well, I'm sorry. You're wrong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Amazing!!

Now you need an acrylic cover like the F cars have.
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post Aug 12 2022, 02:33 PM
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Oh God that is going to look good with the engine peaking out like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Aug 12 2022, 05:14 PM
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You are KILLING me... And prob a few others
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post Aug 12 2022, 05:48 PM
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post Aug 12 2022, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Aug 12 2022, 12:09 PM) *

Thanks to Robert @buddyv , I had this spare engine lid. A bit of measuring and cutting and... BAM! There it is! Not even going to obstruct rearward vision! As expected, the trunk is going to need some surgery but that'll wait until the rest of the intake is worked out.
But holy jeebus, this thing is going to be so cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
If you voted "Yikes" earlier, well, I'm sorry. You're wrong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You know that cutting the lid doesn’t exactly solve the problem. In the same way that you cannot quite look past that cool supercharger up front in the hot rods. Which you need to add. Couldn’t be in better hands. Rock on.
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post Aug 13 2022, 08:51 AM
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Subcribed!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) This is very cool.
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post Aug 13 2022, 10:13 AM
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post Aug 14 2022, 12:12 PM
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Gotta say…as much as I loved the idea of lowering the plenum to make this a sleeper, this is gonna look great—and people are going to trip out.

"Yeah but the engine in those—hey, waitaminute…what?!"

I've been a longtime fan of engine swaps, but this one may just take the cake... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Aug 14 2022, 01:36 PM
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At this point I think I would seriously consider making the trunk lid shorter and engine lid longer.

For the inlets I'd make a slip fit down turn instead of cutting/welding the intake. It's going to be visible so make it pretty.

I'd also keep the factory oil/water cooler. They chose to do it that way for a reason plus it works fine.
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post Aug 14 2022, 02:00 PM
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^^ Interesting points.

But engine lid longer, with its seam moved further back, will violate a key 914 graphic established by the ends of its targa bar—as will, of course, a Ferrari engine…though that kinda gets a pass. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I wonder about some of Porsche's early attempts to make a single-piece, rear-engined decklid and engine cover for the 914…something Chris is certainly aware of. Then it's "just" one hole in the middle-ish for that red intake plenum. Just thinking out loud…

Fully agree on making the turndown(s) pretty, but have no worries with Chris at work...
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post Aug 14 2022, 02:31 PM
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.....and here were go again! ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Aug 14 2022, 07:47 PM
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Not much progress this weekend as Saturday was dedicated to finishing up the intercooler install on the Lotus 7 replica. Then this morning, @Krieger Andy came by to drive my 914 and give me some advice on alignment / spring rates, as well as some input on this build.
In the afternoon, @Retroracer Tony stopped by on his way from Bend to the South Bay. We geeked out on the Ferrari build and he gave me his usual excellent input on a few things. Then we took the E9 for a short drive to grab lunch. Best of all, he presented me with the COOLEST gift! I need to take some time and get pics before I post about it but let me just say, it's one of the neatest things I've ever received. I hope when you see it, you'll agree.

Anyway, once the always important social stuff wrapped up, I was able to do a rough cut of removing the engine tray tin and the /6 mounts - and remember, those mounts interferred with things like the alternator so they simply weren't going to work. Removal of all this allows me to get a complete understanding of the room I have for things like exhaust and what I'm thinking will be a cradle-style engine/trans mount. Just a bit more clearancing and I'll be able to start in on fabbing the mounts!


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post Aug 14 2022, 09:43 PM
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That induction system peeking out of the bodywork reminds me of the 917.



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post Aug 14 2022, 10:58 PM
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Chris, your car is blazing fast and drives very nicely! Thank you for sharing that driving experience with me! Your work is impressive!
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