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914 GT 3.6 Ferrari Build, - Mechanicals coming along, electronics soon! |
tygaboy |
Aug 12 2022, 11:05 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,451 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Quick poll: Yikes! or Oh, YEAH!
Just look where that plenum is going to be! I'm voting "Oh, Yeah! I have an old engine lid I'm going to cut it so we'll know exactly what this thing will look like. Attached thumbnail(s) |
tygaboy |
Aug 12 2022, 11:07 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,451 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
And before you get all excited and think you've done all the needed clearancing...
As Max said: "Missed it by THAT much!" Attached thumbnail(s) |
SirAndy |
Aug 12 2022, 11:18 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
What's the angle on the drive shafts? I'd rather reshape the firewall a bit to make the front covers fit than moving everything even further back.
The less angle on a drive shaft, the better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) PS: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
tygaboy |
Aug 12 2022, 11:42 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,451 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
What's the angle on the drive shafts? I'd rather reshape the firewall a bit to make the front covers fit than moving everything even further back. The less angle on a drive shaft, the better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) PS: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) @SirAndy The angle is WAY better than on my LS car. Nothing is finalized and forward is better for fitment of that trans mount, too. Still work to do, for sure. |
sportlicherFahrer |
Aug 12 2022, 12:38 PM
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Nothing to see here. Group: Members Posts: 1,104 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Tacoma, WA Member No.: 3,945 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Cut engine lid would look pretty rad. That idea gives me another. Have you settled on a name for the project? If not, might I suggest Roter Kopf as an homage to another car sharing similar attributes? I think it translates right, but @SirAndy may have a better translation on that one.
Looking forward to seeing this build at the next WCR! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
tygaboy |
Aug 12 2022, 01:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,451 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks to Robert @buddyv , I had this spare engine lid. A bit of measuring and cutting and... BAM! There it is! Not even going to obstruct rearward vision! As expected, the trunk is going to need some surgery but that'll wait until the rest of the intake is worked out.
But holy jeebus, this thing is going to be so cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) If you voted "Yikes" earlier, well, I'm sorry. You're wrong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
Jett |
Aug 12 2022, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,670 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Seattle Member No.: 17,686 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks to Robert @buddyv , I had this spare engine lid. A bit of measuring and cutting and... BAM! There it is! Not even going to obstruct rearward vision! As expected, the trunk is going to need some surgery but that'll wait until the rest of the intake is worked out. But holy jeebus, this thing is going to be so cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) If you voted "Yikes" earlier, well, I'm sorry. You're wrong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Amazing!! Now you need an acrylic cover like the F cars have. |
autopro |
Aug 12 2022, 02:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 306 Joined: 14-January 18 From: San Diego / Tijuana Member No.: 21,797 Region Association: Southern California |
Oh God that is going to look good with the engine peaking out like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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ssuperflyoldguy |
Aug 12 2022, 05:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 173 Joined: 15-November 15 From: NorCal - East Bay Baby! Member No.: 19,364 Region Association: None |
You are KILLING me... And prob a few others
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Front yard mechanic |
Aug 12 2022, 05:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,227 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None |
Enzoenvy
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worn |
Aug 12 2022, 06:17 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,342 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thanks to Robert @buddyv , I had this spare engine lid. A bit of measuring and cutting and... BAM! There it is! Not even going to obstruct rearward vision! As expected, the trunk is going to need some surgery but that'll wait until the rest of the intake is worked out. But holy jeebus, this thing is going to be so cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) If you voted "Yikes" earlier, well, I'm sorry. You're wrong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You know that cutting the lid doesn’t exactly solve the problem. In the same way that you cannot quite look past that cool supercharger up front in the hot rods. Which you need to add. Couldn’t be in better hands. Rock on. |
DTMLGND |
Aug 13 2022, 08:51 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 6-November 11 From: US Member No.: 13,756 Region Association: Southern California |
Subcribed!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) This is very cool.
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Krieger |
Aug 13 2022, 10:13 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,763 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
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horizontally-opposed |
Aug 14 2022, 12:12 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,445 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Gotta say…as much as I loved the idea of lowering the plenum to make this a sleeper, this is gonna look great—and people are going to trip out.
"Yeah but the engine in those—hey, waitaminute…what?!" I've been a longtime fan of engine swaps, but this one may just take the cake... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
Chris914n6 |
Aug 14 2022, 01:36 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,413 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
At this point I think I would seriously consider making the trunk lid shorter and engine lid longer.
For the inlets I'd make a slip fit down turn instead of cutting/welding the intake. It's going to be visible so make it pretty. I'd also keep the factory oil/water cooler. They chose to do it that way for a reason plus it works fine. |
horizontally-opposed |
Aug 14 2022, 02:00 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,445 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
^^ Interesting points.
But engine lid longer, with its seam moved further back, will violate a key 914 graphic established by the ends of its targa bar—as will, of course, a Ferrari engine…though that kinda gets a pass. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I wonder about some of Porsche's early attempts to make a single-piece, rear-engined decklid and engine cover for the 914…something Chris is certainly aware of. Then it's "just" one hole in the middle-ish for that red intake plenum. Just thinking out loud… Fully agree on making the turndown(s) pretty, but have no worries with Chris at work... |
roundtwo |
Aug 14 2022, 02:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 9-February 20 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 23,905 Region Association: Central California |
.....and here were go again! ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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tygaboy |
Aug 14 2022, 07:47 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,451 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Not much progress this weekend as Saturday was dedicated to finishing up the intercooler install on the Lotus 7 replica. Then this morning, @Krieger Andy came by to drive my 914 and give me some advice on alignment / spring rates, as well as some input on this build.
In the afternoon, @Retroracer Tony stopped by on his way from Bend to the South Bay. We geeked out on the Ferrari build and he gave me his usual excellent input on a few things. Then we took the E9 for a short drive to grab lunch. Best of all, he presented me with the COOLEST gift! I need to take some time and get pics before I post about it but let me just say, it's one of the neatest things I've ever received. I hope when you see it, you'll agree. Anyway, once the always important social stuff wrapped up, I was able to do a rough cut of removing the engine tray tin and the /6 mounts - and remember, those mounts interferred with things like the alternator so they simply weren't going to work. Removal of all this allows me to get a complete understanding of the room I have for things like exhaust and what I'm thinking will be a cradle-style engine/trans mount. Just a bit more clearancing and I'll be able to start in on fabbing the mounts! Attached thumbnail(s) |
Spoke |
Aug 14 2022, 09:43 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 7,085 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
That induction system peeking out of the bodywork reminds me of the 917.
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Krieger |
Aug 14 2022, 10:58 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,763 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
Chris, your car is blazing fast and drives very nicely! Thank you for sharing that driving experience with me! Your work is impressive!
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