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> 914 GT 3.6 Ferrari Build, - Mechanicals coming along, electronics soon!
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post Dec 13 2022, 07:09 PM
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Love that rolling bender Chris. You have nice toys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Don't you love how that Chromoly welds? Have you been able bend the .095 45-60 degree w/o any small kinking. Great build as always. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


@76-914 Kent - Are you talking about bends for something like a roll cage? The tubing will bend fine to 180 degrees, assuming the proper die. The smallest radius you're suppsed to use is 3x OD so on the 1.5, it's a 4.5" radius. I used a 6" radius on all the 1.5" chassis stiffening tubes in my LS build. Hope that helps.
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post Dec 13 2022, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Dec 13 2022, 05:09 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Dec 13 2022, 02:18 PM) *

Love that rolling bender Chris. You have nice toys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Don't you love how that Chromoly welds? Have you been able bend the .095 45-60 degree w/o any small kinking. Great build as always. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


@76-914 Kent - Are you talking about bends for something like a roll cage? The tubing will bend fine to 180 degrees, assuming the proper die. The smallest radius you're suppsed to use is 3x OD so on the 1.5, it's a 4.5" radius. I used a 6" radius on all the 1.5" chassis stiffening tubes in my LS build. Hope that helps.

Yes it did, thx. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Dec 14 2022, 02:12 PM
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Right side rear engine cradle mount fabbed and tacked in.
While I added that plate on the rear of the suspension console, as I looked at everything, I ended up simply adding an extension to the plating that had been previously added to the front side. I think it makes for what will look more cohesive, once it's all done.
Note that the base mount is 3/16" plate. It has a slight bevel on the underside edge to help in clear a weld on the cradle and this makes it look much thinner than it really is.

Still some trimming/tuning to go, then boxing across the face but this should give a good idea of how it'll all work.

On to the left side - which should go lots quicker, now that the design and approach have been worked out.


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post Dec 14 2022, 06:02 PM
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Left side in process with console vertical extension rosetted in place and rear plate tacked in postion.
The vertical piece will also be welded to the console on the backside, too.


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post Dec 14 2022, 06:19 PM
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Yep, the second time was WAY faster. After adding the same small, front plate extension, the cradle was bolted in at the front and at the right rear. I verified level then placed a scrap 3/16" plate on the cradle mount and scribed a line on each of the plates.
Remove the cradle, use a zip wheel to slice off the excess material, bolt the cradle back in, prep the actual 3/16" mount base, verify everything AGAIN and tack everything in place.

So after what seems like forever, the engine cradle mounts are fabbed, fit and (if I do say so myself) FABULOUS! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

OK, OK, so I still need to install the engine mounts but, come on! I couldn't be happier.


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post Dec 14 2022, 06:22 PM
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I'll level with you, it's good to see this is a match.
(Thanks, I'm here all week! Don't forget to tip your servers!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Dec 14 2022, 06:23 PM
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And here's something you don't see every day: one 914 chassis, essentially ready to receive a Ferrari 360 drive train.


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post Dec 14 2022, 06:44 PM
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Awesome build Chris, this will send the precious pasta people to the Nut House when this rolls into Cars und Coffee (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 14 2022, 09:09 PM
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Awesome build Chris, this will send the precious pasta people to the Nut House when this rolls into Cars und Coffee (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Especially if he keeps the "Ferrari Pink" color ...
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post Dec 15 2022, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Dec 14 2022, 06:23 PM) *

And here's something you don't see every day: one 914 chassis, essentially ready to receive a Ferrari 360 drive train.


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post Dec 15 2022, 02:52 PM
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What's the opposite of "clamp"? The console's odd angles made it awkward to get the plate firmly pressed against it for rosette welding. Use a clamp backwards and "presto"!
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Anyway, it worked a treat and the plate is welded on.


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post Dec 15 2022, 02:55 PM
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Noodling on ideas for boxing, with this design leading at the moment. The height of the opening allows access to the mounting fastener. Looks kinda cool, too.


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post Dec 15 2022, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 14 2022, 07:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Dec 14 2022, 04:44 PM) *

Awesome build Chris, this will send the precious pasta people to the Nut House when this rolls into Cars und Coffee (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Especially if he keeps the "Ferrari Pink" color ...
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From "Cannonball Run" Ferrari driver, 'And now my friend The first rule of Italian driving...what's a behind me isa not important'
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post Dec 15 2022, 04:48 PM
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Today was me welding on my own, rosetting the spreader plates to the chassis, then the tabs to the spreader plates.
It was extra challenging because it was out of position welding: upside down with the car only about 18" off the ground so I couldn't get my head to an optimal viewing distance from the work area. Such fun! But I got it done.


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post Dec 15 2022, 05:39 PM
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Noodling on ideas for boxing, with this design leading at the moment. The height of the opening allows access to the mounting fastener. Looks kinda cool, too.


Looks like a good area for some of your beautiful dimpling /ribbing?
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post Dec 15 2022, 07:00 PM
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@tygaboy Chris - the opposite of "clamp" is "pmalc". I believe its a silent "p".

I'm here to help.

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post Dec 16 2022, 01:24 PM
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Looks great Chris
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post Dec 16 2022, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Dec 15 2022, 05:48 PM) *

Today was me welding on my own, rosetting the spreader plates to the chassis, then the tabs to the spreader plates.
It was extra challenging because it was out of position welding: upside down with the car only about 18" off the ground so I couldn't get my head to an optimal viewing distance from the work area. Such fun! But I got it done.


Nothing beats TIG for upside down welding. No shower of sparks or slag. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Dec 16 2022, 04:55 PM
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Classic example of "why didn't I do this sooner?"
And yes, I'll run with jack stands in there, too. This was the first time all the way up. What's best is that in this position, the drive train slips under the bumper!
Life made a bit simpler.


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post Dec 16 2022, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Dec 15 2022, 03:55 PM) *

Noodling on ideas for boxing, with this design leading at the moment. The height of the opening allows access to the mounting fastener. Looks kinda cool, too.

That looks great, but have you checked to see if you have clearance with the engine in place to put a socket on that bolt? If the engine is wider than the cradle at that point, you might not have room to get a wrench or socket in there.

Not saying I've ever been bitten by sorta detail before, but.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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