Bringing it back:, Improved Original for 4742910780 Options

[davep]

That is a great photo set. The painted male spade is just the same as mine; paint does not make for the best of connections.

[StarBear]

Van; does this help? From George’s Tech Tips 700, page 103.

[Van B]

It ain’t listed there either @StarBear , but if you’re going to reuse the original bolts, go with the same torque listed for the engine support nuts, 21.7ft/lbs.

[StarBear]

It ain’t listed there either @StarBear , but if you’re going to reuse the original bolts, go with the same torque listed for the engine support nuts, 21.7ft/lbs.

Ok; wasn’t sure. Weird.
Would like to use new ones, not 48 year old ones. Will check the ratings.

[Van B]

Almost everything new you can buy will be 8.8 at least. As I've been going through my car, I'm finding a lot of grade 5.

[Van B]

Been spending a lot of time LARPing as a type 4 engine these past weekends lol…. But, I want to uncover any and all issues as well as set myself up for a quality finish with my high dollar 3M undercoating. Today I spent the afternoon soaking the 50yr old Ziebart in mineral spirits and using all manner of tools and rags to remove it.

Pretty pleased with how much I removed today and the condition of the metal and paint underneath. I learned that the battery tray was replaced some time ago… and not properly primed or painted lol.

[StarBear]

Yuck. Keep up the great work, Van!

[bkrantz]

Been spending a lot of time LARPing as a type 4 engine these past weekends lol…. But, I want to uncover any and all issues as well as set myself up for a quality finish with my high dollar 3M undercoating. Today I spent the afternoon soaking the 50yr old Ziebart in mineral spirits and using all manner of tools and rags to remove it.

Pretty pleased with how much I removed today and the condition of the metal and paint underneath. I learned that the battery tray was replaced some time ago… and not properly primed or painted lol.

Undercoating hides all kinds of sins, especially on 914s. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

[Van B]

So true!

[type2man]

How come you took it apart. It only had 53k.

[Van B]

Basically because the car was 100% original in all the wrong ways. Every bit of rubber was leaking pretty aggressively or nearly disintegrated. Then, I found rust that was about to get out of hand.

I will only reseal and refinish the engine though, no rebuild. I want to enjoy the engine for its full lifespan.

[wonkipop]

How come you took it apart. It only had 53k.

looking good @Van B .
luscious saturn yellow been protected all those years.
nothing like a bright engine bay to cheer you up when you flip the lid to fret about fast idle and AAVs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

tip - install some new trunk torsion bar rollers if you have not already thought of that.
one of mine shat itself and shattered as we were doing the recommission. sheer age of brittle nylon at this point in time. got some nice new tidy repros from 914 rubber and replaced the broken one and put the other away as a spare.

[Van B]

@Mikey914
Mark, in the pic I posted yesterday, the grommet in question is for the hole between the rain tube and the fuel line ports. That's where the hard vent line goes through on my 74. And yes I agree replacing the hard line is a good call. Let me know how to add that to my order

Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Van

[Van B]

How come you took it apart. It only had 53k.

looking good @Van B .
luscious saturn yellow been protected all those years.
nothing like a bright engine bay to cheer you up when you flip the lid to fret about fast idle and AAVs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

tip - install some new trunk torsion bar rollers if you have not already thought of that.
one of mine shat itself and shattered as we were doing the recommission. sheer age of brittle nylon at this point in time. got some nice new tidy repros from 914 rubber and replaced the broken one and put the other away as a spare.

I'm still planning to go smooth undercoating for the engine bay. But I may look to leave a second exposed if I have a clean section that makes sense... Maybe the back wall?

[wonkipop]

How come you took it apart. It only had 53k.

looking good @Van B .
luscious saturn yellow been protected all those years.
nothing like a bright engine bay to cheer you up when you flip the lid to fret about fast idle and AAVs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

tip - install some new trunk torsion bar rollers if you have not already thought of that.
one of mine shat itself and shattered as we were doing the recommission. sheer age of brittle nylon at this point in time. got some nice new tidy repros from 914 rubber and replaced the broken one and put the other away as a spare.

I'm still planning to go smooth undercoating for the engine bay. But I may look to leave a second exposed if I have a clean section that makes sense... Maybe the back wall?

hard to know. the yellow is very attractive and 1970s.
30+ years ago i treated the areas similar to yours on top of longs.
and repainted just those areas. in black paint. it was just the lower parts of the the tops of the longs where it does the dumbo water trap dip down. i kind of cut the paint into a line around those hollows. its still holding up.

looks like you have more extensive areas to deal with from a repaint point of view.
you are likely correct with your approach.
the original paint does look pretty good where its been hiding under the zebart.

[Van B]

Man… such an absolutely tedious task. But I know I will be glad I did it in the years to come. The problem with Ziebart and other traditional undercoatings is that when it’s not sprayed properly, it foams… And that traps moisture.

The new stuff, like 3M Dyna-Pro 544, is vastly more expensive, but it doesn’t trap air bubbles and is paintable. After seeing all this yellow for the first time in 50yrs, I’m considering the idea of painting the bay yellow. But also, my original plan was for a smooth satin black finish that would let the refinished engine be the star.
It’s important to me the car should keep its stories. It is a survivor after all.

[wonkipop]

It’s important to me the car should keep its stories. It is a survivor after all.

yes its a survivor.

half the fun is working out a legit and interesting path of preservation alongside making sure it is still functional, useable, reliable and --------->FUN to drive?

i guess folks didn't have that "problem", if it is a indeed a problem, 30 years ago.
you just fixed em up and drove them. they were just another old car.
but the longer time goes on and the thing survives the more interesting it becomes.

imagine a model T ford in 1970. still being driven around and still in the state your 914 is in. you can't. it was unimaginable. but thats what i guess a 914 is now.

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[Van B]

I think a lot of it has to do with the car itself. One day, there will be no Chrysler K cars. Mostly because they were crap, but also because there was nothing about them that made them worth owning or keeping.

Oh I forgot to mention the bird shit on the trunk hinge pin bracket I now get to grind off and weld up correctly lol

[wonkipop]

I think a lot of it has to do with the car itself. One day, there will be no Chrysler K cars. Mostly because they were crap, but also because there was nothing about them that made them worth owning or keeping.

Oh I forgot to mention the bird shit on the trunk hinge pin bracket I now get to grind off and weld up correctly lol

there is probably some little club of K car fans out there that will keep a few examples rolling. not sure why, but it happens.

the only contemporary USA car that caught my eye when i was there as a post grad in the late 80s was the ford taurus. the wagon version. that thing was so good as an everyman car. really stylish. ford nailed it with that car. they even drove nice.

i wouldn't mind one just to cruise around in here with the steering wheel on the wrong side. just for laughs.

[Van B]

So, last weekend I bought an abrasive blaster tank to deal with the engine bay only to learn that I need way more drying action on my air lines lol… So, I’ll be dealing with that tomorrow hopefully. Today, however, was dedicated to buying another classic Porsche design. And quite possibly the slowest Porsche ever! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I was perusing Craigslist, as I often do. And I found a beautiful FA Porsche table and chair set. The owners DID NOT know what they had, only that it was a hand-me-down and good quality. So, $550 dollars, an adventure through Washington DC, and a few hours of polishing later, we have a new breakfast table!