P-car 6 or SBC 8, for Ury Options

[goose2]

....so, who the hell is Cindy and just how and why does she support terrorism? Inquiring minds need to know....it's a small world after all.

[neo914-6]

QUOTE (Sammy @ Aug 23 2005, 10:03 AM)

It's a world of laughter A world of tears It's a world of hopes And a world of fears There's so much that we share That it's time we're aware It's a small world after all There is just one moon And one golden sun And a smile means Friendship to ev'ryone Though the mountains divide And the oceans are wide It's a small world after all It's a small world after all It's a small world after all It's a small world after all It's a small, small world Don't mention it, no thanks necessary. Least I can do.

Dam you! (picture Charlton Heston when he sees the status of liberty in "Beneath thd Planet of the Apes" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

[914GT]

QUOTE (goose2 @ Aug 23 2005, 11:42 AM)

....so, who the hell is Cindy and just how and why does she support terrorism? Inquiring minds need to know....it's a small world after all.

Cindy Sheehan, the anti-war protestor who's son was killed in Iraq and had been camping out outside the Bush ranch recently. Support terrorism? You decide. She's involved with groups such as Code Pink, who want to interfere with military recruitment on campuses. Years ago those activities would have been called sedition.

[goose2]

QUOTE

Cindy Sheehan, the anti-war protestor who's son was killed in Iraq

OK..of course...I knew that, just assumed it was 914 related since we avoid politically charged issues here. Thanks

[neo914-6]

QUOTE (Crazyhippy @ Aug 22 2005, 02:21 PM)

QUOTE (LvSteveH @ Aug 21 2005, 01:18 PM) Having a twin turbo SBC in a 914 with 1000hp is great for bench racing, but where is it practical or even beneficial in any capacity?  Do you accelerate appreciably faster than if you only had 500hp in your car? I doubt it. The 914 seems to me to love around 200hp. It just seems balanced there. Anything over 400hp in a street driven 914 seems to me to be more about bragging rights than anything usable. Dedicated track cars are of course another story all together. A 2100 pound 914 with 300hp, a nicely tuned suspension, and decent tires would be just about perfect on the street and entirely capable on the track, just ask the guys running a 3.6L six. If properly geared and setup, that would net 12 second quarter mile times AND great handling in a car that can be comfortable enough for the street. That's Viper, Z06, and GT2 territory on a postman's budget. And there is no reason the same 300 hp couldn't come from a well prepped 302 V8 with aluminum heads that spins to 7500 rpm just like the porsche.   Just my .02 cents. Just because there are 1000 HP on tap, doesn't mean you use them all the time, you learn throttle control on a whole new level. If traction will only handle 500HP, only use 500 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif)

Here's an example of "too" much hp:

QUOTE

Possibly the least sporty, most poorly constructed small car ever sold in America was the Renault R5. Known in this country as the LeCar, the Renault looked and drove like a Yugo, only smaller, with less power and worse reliability. Renault was racing, however. During the late '70s and early '80s, the company was pioneering development of turbocharged engines in its Formula One racing cars. Those 1.5-liter turbo engines eventually reached as high as an estimated 1,200 hp in qualifying trim. Renault wanted to put its turbo expertise to work in rally competition, and the tiny R5 was the designated platform. But putting a bunch of turbo horses to the ground through the front wheels didn't seem like a good recipe for a fast rally car, so Renault engineers removed the back seat and installed the engine amidships, driving the rear wheels through a five-speed transaxle. To make this version eligible for racing, Renault then had to sell the R5 Turbo in its showrooms. Unfortunately, the manufacturer didn't officially import the little hot rod to America.

[Mueller]

I used to see one in Campbell once in a while...one of my all time favorite cars (by looks and performance, never drove one) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif)

[ArtechnikA]

...and a noted F1 driver (i want to say Jean-Pierre Jarrier) was Renault's US Competition Director and was killed testing an R5 Turbo being prepped for IMSA. that was pretty much the end of the R5's official competition career in the US, although IIRC the Archer Brothers went on to campaign them pretty successfully as independents, possibly in another series (Trans-Am?)

[goose2]

It's a world of hell holes
brackets and gears
Small blocks and sixes
Debates and jeers
It's the platform we share
What conversion you dare
It's a 914 world after all

There is just one chassis
And one rusty tub
Be it powered by Chevy
Or anemic V-Dub
Though our choices divide
Keep your minds open wide
Its a 914 world after all

It's a 914 world after all (repeat until vomiting subsides)

[SirAndy]

QUOTE (Neo914-6 @ Aug 23 2005, 12:42 PM)

Here's an example of "too" much hp

R5 Turbo II one of my all time favorite cars ...

that one, i would own in a heartbeat!
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Andy

[neo914-6]

QUOTE (goose2 @ Aug 23 2005, 11:52 AM)

It's a world of hell holes brackets and gears Small blocks and sixes Debates and jeers It's the platform we share What conversion you dare It's a 914 world after all There is just one chassis And one rusty tub Be it powered by Chevy Or anemic V-Dub Though our choices divide Keep your minds open wide Its a 914 world after all It's a 914 world after all (repeat until vomiting subsides)

Dam that's funny! LMAO (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif)

[neo914-6]

QUOTE (Mueller @ Aug 23 2005, 11:46 AM)

I used to see one in Campbell once in a while...one of my all time favorite cars (by looks and performance, never drove one) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif)

Mike,

found it after you posted the link for a R5 transaxle. I "may" go for it if the shipping costs are reasonable...it's rated up to 500hp/350tq...wonder what they used for the 1200hp engines. A company in AUS sells a Chevy bellhousing for it.

[andys]

QUOTE (Neo914-6 @ Aug 23 2005, 02:28 PM)

Mike, found it after you posted the link for a R5 transaxle. I "may" go for it if the shipping costs are reasonable...it's rated up to 500hp/350tq...wonder what they used for the 1200hp engines. A company in AUS sells a Chevy bellhousing for it.

Felix,

The Renault transaxle is widely used on European GT40 kit cars (GTD). A lot of those guys do a lot of track time with them, and, as it turns out, durability is really quite good. Many opt for the Derek Bell upgrades which allows it to withstand a genuine 550HP. Only down side, is that there are relatively few of these here in the states, and just as few that can work on them.

The model UN1-013 has very good V8 ratio's from a reasonably tall first, to a reasonably tall 5th; something that is lacking with most transaxles available here.

Andy

[turbo914v8]

QUOTE (Neo914-6 @ Aug 23 2005, 03:42 PM)

QUOTE (Crazyhippy @ Aug 22 2005, 02:21 PM) QUOTE (LvSteveH @ Aug 21 2005, 01:18 PM) Having a twin turbo SBC in a 914 with 1000hp is great for bench racing, but where is it practical or even beneficial in any capacity?  Do you accelerate appreciably faster than if you only had 500hp in your car? I doubt it. The 914 seems to me to love around 200hp. It just seems balanced there. Anything over 400hp in a street driven 914 seems to me to be more about bragging rights than anything usable. Dedicated track cars are of course another story all together. A 2100 pound 914 with 300hp, a nicely tuned suspension, and decent tires would be just about perfect on the street and entirely capable on the track, just ask the guys running a 3.6L six. If properly geared and setup, that would net 12 second quarter mile times AND great handling in a car that can be comfortable enough for the street. That's Viper, Z06, and GT2 territory on a postman's budget. And there is no reason the same 300 hp couldn't come from a well prepped 302 V8 with aluminum heads that spins to 7500 rpm just like the porsche.   Just my .02 cents. Just because there are 1000 HP on tap, doesn't mean you use them all the time, you learn throttle control on a whole new level. If traction will only handle 500HP, only use 500 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif) Here's an example of "too" much hp: QUOTE Possibly the least sporty, most poorly constructed small car ever sold in America was the Renault R5. Known in this country as the LeCar, the Renault looked and drove like a Yugo, only smaller, with less power and worse reliability. Renault was racing, however. During the late '70s and early '80s, the company was pioneering development of turbocharged engines in its Formula One racing cars. Those 1.5-liter turbo engines eventually reached as high as an estimated 1,200 hp in qualifying trim. Renault wanted to put its turbo expertise to work in rally competition, and the tiny R5 was the designated platform. But putting a bunch of turbo horses to the ground through the front wheels didn't seem like a good recipe for a fast rally car, so Renault engineers removed the back seat and installed the engine amidships, driving the rear wheels through a five-speed transaxle. To make this version eligible for racing, Renault then had to sell the R5 Turbo in its showrooms. Unfortunately, the manufacturer didn't officially import the little hot rod to America.

Here we finally have some intelligent thinking. I promise you there is no feeling quite like when you hook big HP in a 914. I did not mean to imply that you must have big HP or a v8 to enjoy a 914. I did not mean to brag and was not trying to. I am however proud of my achievements with my turbocharged 914 as I did all the work my self. I just think that 914's are a very unique car and love all types stock and\or modified.

[neo914-6]

QUOTE (turbo914v8 @ Aug 23 2005, 03:37 PM)

I am however proud of my achievements with my turbocharged 914 as I did all the work my self. I just think that 914's are a very unique car and love all types stock and\or modified.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) Paul, you should be now how about those pics? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Hear from Scott B lately?

[Aaron Cox]

QUOTE (J P Stein @ Aug 22 2005, 04:45 PM)

We can picture you as anything we want as you seem to be unable to clarify yourself. I prefer you as a pimply faced hi school kid with a computer....you know, socially retarded, unable to connect with real people except by the anonymity of the internet. A clever put down to you is flipping someone the bird.

you just described Britt Dodd..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

[grantsfo]

Here are two of my favorite v8 conversions!

Video of mid engine V8 mini!

http://www.simon-stubbs.co.uk/videos/V8blu..._1st%20runx.wmv

His site:

http://www.simon-stubbs.co.uk/

Great tranverse v8 Mini conversion

http://www.geocities.com/jharkola/Viku2.html

[turbo914v8]

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...f=2&t=36898&hl=

One mean v8
Something for all the non-believers. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)

[goose2]

how 'bout a 478 Hemi in a Bugeye Sprite?

http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photo...rian/Marian.htm

[J P Stein]

QUOTE (goose2 @ Aug 23 2005, 07:36 PM)

how 'bout a 478 Hemi in a Bugeye Sprite?

Another answer to a question nobody asked.......but....
I bet it will swap ends quicker than a 1000hp 914 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

[Brett W]

There is an R5 that show up sometimes at the Walter Mitty historic races at Road Atlanta. He is out classed and not a very good driver, but the car is cool as hell.