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| Britain Smith |
 Mar 24 2006, 09:21 PM
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Nano Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364  |
That one might fine looking car ya got there... Here is my car behind Brad's truck, not that it helps you any. I also have a '02 Yukon...Love It! (IMG:http://www.britainsmith.com/Porsche/912Project/Assembly/images/180_0004_JPG.jpg) -Britain |
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| Tom Perso |
Mar 24 2006, 09:21 PM
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Crazy from the Cold... Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Kalamazoo, MI Member No.: 1,003 |
Hey, it's the p!ss and sh!t parade.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1143255358.jpg) LOL j/k I can't talk too much, I have one of them piss yeller teeners, but it sits on jackstands. At least you can drive yours. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) Tom |
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| Britain Smith |
Mar 24 2006, 09:25 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Actually...his car is currently on jackstands also. However, it is getting a LSD and rebuilt suspension. -Britain |
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| J P Stein |
Mar 24 2006, 10:08 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
OK, so it ain't too stylish....nor close, but cheep & gets the job done. The money goes into the pee colored thingy.
I hauled it down to Sacramento last spring & got a long distance ass kickin'......life in the slow lane (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| DanT |
Mar 24 2006, 10:35 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
I guess a good question in all this is, how many events do you plan on going to each season. The more you go the more a tow vehicle and a nice trailer might be worth it. If you plan on going to 10 or fewer events per year then flat towing might be a better way to go.
If you flat tow you will need a second set of tires and wheels, at least for the front. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Just about any small suv will pull a small trailer just big enough for a 914. But as you said not as much fun as a daily driver as the Audi. This is a real dilema, especially when you have a car that will not be the most street friendly... Although I drove my 914-6 to every TT and AX for 5 years. And I had a very aggressive suspension. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) 40IDAs and completely gutted sport muffler. got kind of buzzy driving to TH or BW. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) you could try flat towing for a while for very little $$$ outlay. If it doesn't work the way you want it to, you can always upgrade to a trailer. The bracket and tow bar would be an easy sale on this board (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| dlee1967 |
Mar 25 2006, 09:37 AM
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V8Lurker Group: Members Posts: 540 Joined: 20-February 03 From: Splendora, TX Member No.: 327 Region Association: None |
I drag enough rusty 914s home to necessitate a trailer, but the real reason that I have one is for track events. If my V8 car breaks, it is not worth messing with at the track. I am long passed tinkering between runs. I built a trailer specifically for my 914s. The link to the thread about trailers is Here.
With that said, if you only do occasional track events or want to bring your 914 along on a trip. WCC, MUSR, Red Rock, etc. I make a tow bar interface bracket that is listed in the Resourses section of the site. I find both reasonable solutions. The tow dolley seems to be a resonable solution as a hybrid between the bar and the trailer. It is however not a versatile as a trailer and not as compact as a bar. I feel that if you have the space and the resources, go with a trailer. If you will only use it occasionally or don't have the funds, go with a bar. If you are leaning towards a tow dolley, save up a little more cash and get the trailer. Attached image(s) 
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| grantsfo |
Mar 25 2006, 10:06 AM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
I will probably do 10 events this year. I have all the flat tow equipment from David and the Empi bar. My 914 still has stock valance so I need to figure out which style air dam will work. Picked up a trailer hitch for the Audi this week too. Guess I'll give flat tow a shot. I need to find some cheap 5 lug wheels and tires to put on the 914. I have the tow light setup too, but after reading your post on wiring the car I'm rethinking how I will do lights. The 914 is street legal still so I could drive it to events. I will probably just drive it to Marina AX's since I'm only 40 minutes away. I appreciate everyones feedback. I have a sense that I will eventually just buy a beater truck to tow a trailer. |
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| jbegood2000 |
Mar 25 2006, 11:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 25-April 05 From: Stockton, CA Member No.: 3,984 |
Man towing anything through the Santa Cruz with a small tow vehicle is dangerous...I'd get a full size 1/2 ton with a trailer with brakes....I drove a low boy (tractor trailer) through those mountains for years. You'll save a lot of money on brakes and have a lot less ass puckering with full size p/u....just my old experienced opinion.
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| Trekkor |
Mar 25 2006, 11:24 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Even towing my car on the trailer behind my F-350 was freaky on Highway 17.
Even scarier on the tow dolly. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) KT |
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| DanT |
Mar 25 2006, 11:26 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Grant, in my pics I use an LE style front valence and there are no issues with interference. You can use a stock style valence but will need to notch it where the torsion tube cover was before the bracket install. If you have a "real" steel front valence then I would remove it and spend the small amount for a LE style. |
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| Trekkor |
Mar 25 2006, 11:32 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Yep, fiberglass LE air dams are/were $89 at HPH.
mine is attatched with dzus fasteners. Here's the best case tow dolly scenario (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) KT Attached image(s) 
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| DanT |
Mar 25 2006, 11:33 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Towing anything behind another vehicle can be interesting (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)
Remember you have something behind you. And adjust your driving style and speed accordingly. I have been towing trailers of various kinds including RVs of over 15,000 pounds for over 35 years and have never had any problems. Not just what your tow vehicle is, but how it is set up have a major impact on the safety of your rig, and the comfort you feel behind the wheel. I have driven everything from 914s to 18 wheelers and the comfort behind the wheel is always directly related to how the tow vehicle was set up and maintained. |
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| theol00 |
Mar 25 2006, 11:48 AM
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Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 242 Joined: 22-January 04 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 1,586  |
Grant - here is my deal - drive the car to the events and have a $100 premium membership with AAA - allows up to 100 miles free tows - gets you home from most tracks - Infineon and Laguna - a little challenging from Thunderhill -works for me for 5 - 8 events a year and I did not have to use it yet - most race tires are DOT approved - so no problem to drive on public roads/freeways - and while driving on normal roads the wear and tear on your race tires is not that great to justify the pain in the ass of hauling tires around. All the tools you need fit in the trunk of the 914 - and as far as I remember your interior wouldn't suffer too much.
I hate towing !!! For all its worth....my 2 cents.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| jhadler |
Mar 25 2006, 01:31 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
Yeah, but I sure wouldn't want to drive over 100 miles on public roads on Hoosiers. Especially if it rains.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)
-Josh2 |
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| Randal |
Mar 25 2006, 01:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
Wanta race my new one? |
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| Trekkor |
Mar 25 2006, 02:40 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Yes! We can run our "other" car at a PCA a/x. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Big diesels going head to head. I love it. KT Attached image(s) 
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| EdwardBlume |
Mar 25 2006, 03:00 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California 
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My 2000 4Runner worked well with a lighter (and cheaper) open deck tandem. The brake controller made it really easy. I did have to get beefier rear shocks for the sag. Total weight was less than 3500. Pulled nicely up to 75 and pulled fine up hill.
It took me awhile to find a cheaper trailer than what you can get in the BA, but I got a NEW custom lowered, tandem, steel, 6 ft ramp, with single brake for about $1750. No clearance issues even with a front Trekkor style sweeper valence. Sold it 3 years later for $1600. 2000 4Runners can be gotten fairly cheaply considering what you get for it. My $0.02 |
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| Trekkor |
Apr 2 2006, 06:57 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Here is a shot for those who haven't. Long ramps store under the car. Loads of room for tools, air tank, jack and spares in the job box welded to the tongue. *ALL* my other things fit in the bed and cab of the truck. KT Attached image(s) 
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