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> The official, WTF happened to TurtleGirl's engine...., ...on the way to Moab.
Aaron Cox
post Sep 26 2006, 11:03 PM
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post Sep 26 2006, 11:24 PM
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How much is one of those nifty fiber optic camers so we can look inside the engines with out taking them apart? Somebody could probalby make a mint with if they made one with a light so we could poke around our motors with out taking them out.


The decent models are designed for examining aircraft engines and cost about $20K on the low end. I have a couple at work but I am definitely not in the right place to help. They pretty much all come with lights though. Here is a link to some cheap ones if anyone is so inclined. No guarantee on the quality.

http://www.fiberscope.net/servlet/the-Fiberscopes/Categories


Sorry to hear about the engine. That just sucks.
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post Sep 27 2006, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(hcdmueller @ Sep 26 2006, 10:24 PM) *

QUOTE(effutuo101 @ Sep 26 2006, 09:03 PM) *

How much is one of those nifty fiber optic camers so we can look inside the engines with out taking them apart? Somebody could probalby make a mint with if they made one with a light so we could poke around our motors with out taking them out.


The decent models are designed for examining aircraft engines and cost about $20K on the low end. I have a couple at work but I am definitely not in the right place to help. They pretty much all come with lights though. Here is a link to some cheap ones if anyone is so inclined. No guarantee on the quality.

http://www.fiberscope.net/servlet/the-Fiberscopes/Categories


Sorry to hear about the engine. That just sucks.

i saw one for about 1,500 a while back.
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post Sep 27 2006, 06:12 AM
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post Sep 27 2006, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(effutuo101 @ Sep 27 2006, 01:03 AM) *

How much is one of those nifty fiber optic camers so we can look inside the engines with out taking them apart? Somebody could probalby make a mint with if they made one with a light so we could poke around our motors with out taking them out.


Harbor Freight has one for sale for $269 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

ITEM 91565-2VGA 36" fiber optic scope
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post Sep 27 2006, 07:34 AM
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fiber optic camera for $400

http://www.personalarms.com/surveillance/st403.htm


time for some JB Weld on that piston.
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post Sep 27 2006, 08:18 AM
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Looks like there is no need to look inside.. the 0 compression makes it really clear what they are going to find...

Anyhow, can you buy 1 jug and 1 piston for 911's like you can for a beetle engine?
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post Sep 27 2006, 08:38 AM
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Yes, you can get just one. You can probably get just the needed piston.

This is the "first" time I've ever heard of a 911 engine just plugging along and holing a piston. With zero compression it certianly seems to be the case but wow... I'd love to know what caused that. Those SOB's are T-O-U-G-H. It would take a lot.

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post Sep 27 2006, 09:05 AM
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I'm curious as to the conditions of how this happened. How fast was she driving? Climbing a hill? My experience is that you need a lot of heat to melt down a piston. Are you concerned about all the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) in the oil system now? Do you think the filter will take care of all of it? Sorry for your bad luck. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Sep 27 2006, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(Borderline @ Sep 27 2006, 08:05 AM) *

I'm curious as to the conditions of how this happened. How fast was she driving? Climbing a hill? My experience is that you need a lot of heat to melt down a piston. Are you concerned about all the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) in the oil system now? Do you think the filter will take care of all of it? Sorry for your bad luck. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)



Many a rebuilt engine has been ruined by oil coolers letting particles loose that were accumulated when said engine died. My experience is that the oil cooler and whole system needs to be high pressure flushed with HEATED cleaning solvent. Some of the guck won't cut loose at room temps, but add 150 degrees and particles of "plague" start moving.

It's a good idea to put a coffee filter into your oil drain funnel and try to "rebuild" all the pieces you can find of the aluminum piston that weren't vaporized. This is where a good "bean counter" is handy...
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post Sep 27 2006, 09:20 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Bummer, Liz. You 're obviously in capable hands for the fix.
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post Sep 27 2006, 10:28 AM
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Thanks for all the condolences, but I think she'll be fine.

We were going to pull the engine anyway to fix an oil leak, so it's not really that big a deal. I just want to find the missing piece (hopefully just one) in the sump.
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post Sep 27 2006, 10:53 AM
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Sorry Liz! That totaly sucks! And I thought my car problems sucked. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Sounds like its time for a NM "Lets Fix Turtlegirl's Engine" get together.

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post Sep 27 2006, 12:20 PM
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Bummer on the motor guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)



This is gonna be a good thread though...
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post Sep 27 2006, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(Series9 @ Sep 27 2006, 08:28 AM) *

Thanks for all the condolences, but I think she'll be fine.

We were going to pull the engine anyway to fix an oil leak, so it's not really that big a deal. I just want to find the missing piece (hopefully just one) in the sump.


You won't know till it's apart, but if the piston just cracked and then burnt, there won't be much to find in the sump. From your dexcription, it didn't just grenade.

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post Sep 27 2006, 03:22 PM
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Wow, that's a buzzkill on a car party weekend. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Hope it's a simple fix that doesn't require an engine rebuild.

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post Sep 27 2006, 04:46 PM
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Last. I had a look in #5 with a flashlight, but couldn't see any hole.

The leak-down gauge shows 100% bypass.



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Man, that is just a shame. I hope you are lucky and it's just a bunch of time ansd a few parts. I don't think anyone mentioned an oil filter autopsy but, I sure would want to see what's in there. Joe could you hear where the air is escaping to?

Good luck

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Joe could you hear where the air is escaping to?

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Definitely into the case.
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