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Jake Raby
post Nov 4 2006, 04:55 PM
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A little bit of good comes from everything bad...
Thats what my dad always says and he's the wisest man I have ever known..

If one or two people gained even one sentence from this thread that helps them make a selection that will keep them involved in these cars and loving them- thats really all that matters..
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post Nov 4 2006, 05:28 PM
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I think we should go back to arguing which is better:
Carbs or Fuel Injection. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Nov 4 2006, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 4 2006, 03:28 PM) *

I think we should go back to arguing which is better:
Carbs or Fuel Injection. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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Start a new thread so we can have some fun with that! Always a heated debate with that one!

I like the line"The one thing that is always missing in these 4 vs 6 debates, is the PRICE of a new built 200hp FOUR. Delivered turn key. *everything*"

I would like to see the pricetag for a brand new turn key 3.2 six! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif)
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post Nov 4 2006, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Nov 4 2006, 03:33 PM) *

I would like to see the pricetag for a brand new turn key 3.2 six! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif)


The last air cooled "crate motor" I saw was about 5 years ago.. 3.0Ls, they were selling 6-8 of them for 8K.
Happy?... or, as usual, will you ignore anything that doesn't agree with your drivel?
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post Nov 4 2006, 07:05 PM
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From Jake; It still leaves me offering to be the "Underdog" in a 4 Vs 6 comparison and hoping that we can get the logistics worked out... I work really well under pressure, must be the Marine in me..


Lets see this 4 vs 6 thing at WCC 07.
I'am in for hands on help and whatever. I have a 3.2 6 and love it. But I will be the first to say on the track a well built 4 from Jake will kick my A----. I have had it done by guys from POC with killer 4 bangers before Jake came along.
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post Nov 4 2006, 10:14 PM
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Awesome.
That is what I'm looking for.

Tell me about what it feels like to drive in your car. Pretend I have never been in a 914. Pretend I am blind. describe what it is like.


Overall this has been great. There have been some faces slapped, but we are MOSTLY being nice.


When I started this I didn't really know what I wanted to know. all the info has been great. keep it comming (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif)


Heck what ever you have in your 914, tell us exactly how it drives
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post Nov 4 2006, 10:40 PM
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Watch some of my "on-track" video.


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post Nov 4 2006, 11:27 PM
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Wow this would have really been a cool argument if we were all sitting in the same room.
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post Nov 5 2006, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Nov 4 2006, 03:33 PM) *

...This season in GGR AX I competed directly (in my class, don't ask why) with a 964 with wider wheels and engine upgrades, 996s, Boxsters and Boxster Ss, and various other 911s and 944S2s. I won every event I competed in this season with my little well balanced 2.0L. The motor is completely stock other than the Euro headers. It also has `160K miles on it, so it is very tired and in need of a rebuild...but it still held up it's end of the bargain....

All this tells me is that you were the better driver of the bunch. (That's not a bad thing, BTW)
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post Nov 5 2006, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(J P Stein @ Nov 4 2006, 04:07 PM) *

QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Nov 4 2006, 03:33 PM) *

I would like to see the pricetag for a brand new turn key 3.2 six! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif)


The last air cooled "crate motor" I saw was about 5 years ago.. 3.0Ls, they were selling 6-8 of them for 8K.
Happy?... or, as usual, will you ignore anything that doesn't agree with your drivel?


8k is not bad...
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post Nov 5 2006, 09:33 AM
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Actually here is an interesting comparo of big FAT T4 and a similar displacement six lapping Laguna Seca.

Big Bore 2.2 FAT T4 - very nice little car with proper short ratio gearbox

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=46...mp;q=914+laguna

2341cc Six - my cheap bag-o-bolts six conversion with a stock gearbox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQIeGJDK490...ted&search=

Get both of the video windows up and then synchronize them at the start finish line. The six has a standard 901 gearbox and I lost 2nd gear so coming out of slow turns I was doing about 2500 to 3000 RPM in 3rd gear. Not perfect but it gives you a sense of the two engine platforms. Both do a great job of moving our beloved 914's around the track.
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:23 AM
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I just have to add my 2-cents worth.

Good info for everyone planning 914 budget's & how he will drive his 914. I don't believe it's 4 against 6. It's about personal taste & how much money to spend. I resent cheap shots against Jake's Type-4's. I would rather face (Jake) a person with honesty & integrity telling the truth than some snake oil salesman telling me what I want to hear about price.

Good post & very informative. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

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post Nov 5 2006, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Thomas J Bliznik @ Nov 5 2006, 08:23 AM) *

I just have to add my 2-cents worth.

Good info for everyone planning 914 budget's & how he will drive his 914. I don't believe it's 4 against 6. It's about personal taste & how much money to spend. I resent cheap shots against Jake's Type-4's. I would rather face (Jake) a person with honesty & integrity telling the truth than some snake oil salesman telling me what I want to hear about price.

Good post & very informative. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

Tom

I agree its not about 4 verses 6. Its a silly premise. Some T4 fanatics do make it sound like a WWF wrestling match of the underdog 4 against the mighty 6. I have never seen it that way, both are excellent platforms if you have the money to spend. Both platforms have issues too. For me a used six was most economical way to achieve 165 HP for my track car. If I was rich I would have loved to go with a big four. Used six is like getting champagne on a beer budget. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(grantsfo @ Nov 5 2006, 04:33 PM) *

2341cc Six - my cheap bag-o-bolts six conversion with a stock gearbox


Is that Trekkors car -the one parked up whilst you pass?
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:44 AM
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You can get 200HPs from almost any modern four anymore and a Suby almost has the same weight as a stock four. For social status and racing, six is the way to go and the sound is cool.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) I'd get the biggest six there was but then theres this think called reality (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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