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Bolt on power enhancements, what would be your first choice? |
jwalters |
Nov 6 2006, 08:41 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
geee, ever heard of a "Mecedes Benz" ??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Be...050104780QQrdZ1 and yes, you call it a super charger. still missing from your poll-choices ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) Andy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And you tried to infer I am not OBSERVANT ---go figure, think again punker boy on what my response was--------- I await eagerly - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
SirAndy |
Nov 6 2006, 08:45 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And you tried to infer I am not OBSERVANT ---go figure, think again punker boy on what my response was--------- I await eagerly - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
Jake Raby |
Nov 6 2006, 08:57 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I have built two Supercharged TIV engines. One of them made 300RWHP, the other one disappeared and I don't believe it has ran yet!!
I have plans for a Supercharger kit for a TIV engine, but haven't worked on it since 2001 |
nbscooters |
Nov 6 2006, 08:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 165 Joined: 29-June 05 Member No.: 4,347 Region Association: None |
Are you talking about a stock type IV motor or any motor in general? Depending on what type of motor you have, it all depends on what can be bolted on for a performance gain.
Although I voted for adding a turbocharger for FI because I would believe you could gain the most power than any of the other options, I still believe that it would be a waste of time and money to go that route. You would need some sort of variable pressure fuel pump, ecu that will handle boost, intercooler for the turbo, oil cooler, and some sort of sensor that determines how much fuel to inject under boost. In America we call it a supercharger or blower, when its on a Mercedes, they call it a Kompressor. |
914nerd |
Nov 6 2006, 11:23 PM
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Who you callin' a "Member"? Group: Members Posts: 416 Joined: 18-July 06 From: Los Alamos, NM Member No.: 6,461 |
The 914 following has already proven that they are not willing to buy a developed 914 Turbo system. The one I created is in the attic collecting rust because of open ended promises from guys with bigger mouths than wallets... Sorry, but its the truth..The sad part is that mine REALLY worked very, very well and made over 170HP on a 100% bone stock 2.0 with 80K miles on it! Sorry in advance about the hijack Jake, how much $$$ are we talking here for a turbo setup? Just out of curiosity (due to the fact that I may wind up setting something up to this effect at some point) Thanks, Charles Again, sorry for the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hijacked.gif) |
Andyrew |
Nov 6 2006, 11:49 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Charles, if you have to ask..
If jake doesnt post his price. I remember about 6k.. was what he was talking about.. But its his design, and he probably wont sell it any time soon. Scooters... Run 5psi, no intercooler needed. Megasquirt is $300 with a closed loop system (pick your a/f ratio per spectrum, and it automatically adjusts.. BOO YA!) Turbo from junkyard, you'll need to do serious research. or buy a new one for 600. Wastegate, BOV, boost controler,wideband o2 sensor, map sensor, TPS(optional), Temp sensors, and a little tuning ability, welding, bigger fuel pump and bigger injectors (maybe..) to handle the added air, and tap in an oil line and your done. Its not THAT big of a deal... You just cant run a lot of boost. Jake has posted some of the reasons.. (do a search.) You can build it for cheap as dirt(few have built them for less than 400), to rich mans gold (talk to jake about that one) |
balljoint |
Nov 7 2006, 09:29 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,000 Joined: 6-April 04 Member No.: 1,897 Region Association: None |
Complete exhaust, with heat.
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Joe Ricard |
Nov 7 2006, 12:32 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
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McMark |
Nov 7 2006, 12:53 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Uh, oh, this has become the turbo debate thread. I better go bump "6 vs 4". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jake Raby |
Nov 7 2006, 01:11 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
My kit wasn't just a Turbo kit, it was also an EFI kit with direct ignition AND included my DTM for the 914. It literally was every part from the intake to the exhaust pipe, all you needed was a longblock.. The best part is that every part was designed to work with the rest of the components and install in one weekend.
That was about 5,500 bucks including a brand new Turbo... BUT cheap bastards pissed me off- that happens.. |
Brett W |
Nov 7 2006, 01:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,858 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
Boost is the way to go for a street motor. Unfortunately the T4 is not a good candidate for it.
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Jake Raby |
Nov 7 2006, 01:31 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
With some intervention and enhancements it can be done effectively.. If you cut corners or don't take it seriously and it'll kill the engine fast..
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Solo914 |
Nov 7 2006, 01:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 266 Joined: 6-March 06 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 5,678 Region Association: None |
actually, i think the 914 aftermarket is actually pretty good. for those bolt-on mods that would actually result in reliable performance gains, we already have numerous options. the only thing i can really think of that is lacking is 15x7 lightweight 4-bolt wheels. KONIG ----- Sorry for the Highjack, Can you enlighten me further? I have done some serious research and I didn't know Konig made a wheel with a large enough mounting face to be able fit a 4x130 bolt pattern. Which wheel? |
jwalters |
Nov 7 2006, 02:13 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
actually, i think the 914 aftermarket is actually pretty good. for those bolt-on mods that would actually result in reliable performance gains, we already have numerous options. the only thing i can really think of that is lacking is 15x7 lightweight 4-bolt wheels. KONIG ----- Sorry for the Highjack, Can you enlighten me further? I have done some serious research and I didn't know Konig made a wheel with a large enough mounting face to be able fit a 4x130 bolt pattern. Which wheel? Yea, it mimicks the VW auto's bolt pattern for many years - I see them on quite a few pre-79 bugs - As you know, the Type-1 is disappearing also - they may not actively advertise these wheels anymore because of this fact. Call them, I am sure they have plenty which have not had the mounting holes drilled yet, and can hook you up.... |
Mueller |
Nov 7 2006, 02:23 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Yea, it mimicks the VW auto's bolt pattern for many years - I see them on quite a few pre-79 bugs - As you know, the Type-1 is disappearing also - they may not actively advertise these wheels anymore because of this fact. Call them, I am sure they have plenty which have not had the mounting holes drilled yet, and can hook you up.... ....the only Konig wheel I've ever seen on a 914 was on my car....and that was due to me re-drilling for a 4x100 bolt pattern... |
jwalters |
Nov 7 2006, 02:31 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Five mouse clicks and there I was ---
http://www.konigwheels.com/catalog_product...1&ss_id=143 |
Solo914 |
Nov 7 2006, 03:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 266 Joined: 6-March 06 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 5,678 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Five mouse clicks and there I was --- http://www.konigwheels.com/catalog_product...1&ss_id=143 yep, Found those before. So, they come in 2 different offsets and each version has a different size mounting pad. 15x7, 0 offset wheel, 4x1.114.3(big mounting pad)= Wrong offset but the correctly sized mounting pad/hub size 15x7, 40 offset wheel, 4x100(small mounting pad)= Correct offset but the wrong sized mounting pad/hub size I am still looking into seeing if they can manufacture the 15x7, 40 offset wheel in the larger mounting pad, we will see. Kyle |
jwalters |
Nov 7 2006, 03:10 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Five mouse clicks and there I was --- http://www.konigwheels.com/catalog_product...1&ss_id=143 yep, Found those before. So, they come in 2 different offsets and each version has a different size mounting pad. 15x7, 0 offset wheel, 4x1.114.3(big mounting pad)= Wrong offset but the correctly sized mounting pad/hub size 15x7, 40 offset wheel, 4x100(small mounting pad)= Correct offset but the wrong sized mounting pad/hub size I am still looking into seeing if they can manufacture the 15x7, 40 offset wheel in the larger mounting pad, we will see. Kyle Yes, they can - more importantly, they have a "classic" line which only people in the know, know about. It HAS been awhile, but in all of my hot vdubs and vw trends mags there were always vw parts houses which sold correct bolt pattern Konig's with myriad backspacing. Would not be surprised if many of them still had stock on hand>>>>>>>> |
Crazyhippy |
Nov 7 2006, 03:36 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
Driving school...
Easiest way to go faster. (note the period) BJH |
Sammy |
Nov 7 2006, 03:54 PM
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. Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 178 |
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